Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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Another Litany of Christ the King
The Lamb that was slain is worthy to receive power and divinity and wisdom and strength and honor; To Him be glory and empire forever and ever.
He shall rule from sea to sea, and from the river to the ends of the earth. All kings shall adore Him, all nations shall serve Him.
Lord, have mercy upon us. Christ, have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy upon us.
Christ the King, hear us. Christ the King, graciously hear us.
Thou who did receive crowns and tribute from the Magi, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who did rule by love the Holy Family of Nazareth, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who as King, served Thy people in the example of filial obedience, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who drawest to Thy realm the fishermen to be fishers of men, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Whose Kingdom is not of the spirit of this world, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who art the King not of the Jews alone but of all creation, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who was mocked in false purple by the little rulers, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who was crowned with piercing thorns, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who was nailed to Thy throne on Golgotha, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who did ransom Thy people by the royal Sacrifice of Calvary, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who did purchase Thy Kingdom with the Blood of Atonement, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who in Thy Resurrection were the First-born from the dead, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who in Thy glorified body art risen triumphant, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Who art throned and crowned at the right hand of Thy Father, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
In Whom are all created things in Heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Beneath Whom are all thrones and dominations, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Beneath Whom are all principalities and power, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
By Whom all things subsist, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
To Whom all the nations of the earth are subject, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
Through Whom all things are reconciled unto Thy Father, May all nations serve Thee, O Lord.
His power shall be an everlasting power, And His Kingdom a kingdom that shall not be destroyed.
That the peoples of this world may know themselves subject to Thee, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may put of their vainglory, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may dispel the evils laicism has brought upon society, We beseech Thee, hear us. We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may hearken to Thy fiat, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may bow their heads before Thee, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may know Thy reign is eternal, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may submit to Thy just and gentle rule, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may recognize Thy Vicar on earth, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may freely accept his rule for Thy sake, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That they may know that Thy Church, being Thee Thyself, cannot die as nations die, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That the Gentiles may be restored to mercy, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That to Christ the King all things may be restored, We beseech Thee, hear us.
That in the Prince of Peace true peace may by all be found, We beseech Thee, hear us.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world, Spare us, O Christ the King.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world, Hear us, O Christ the King.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world, Have mercy on us.
His power shall be an everlasting power, which shall not be taken away, And His Kingdom shall not decay. Alleluia.
Let Us Pray
Almighty, everlasting God, Who in Thy beloved Son, King of the whole world, has willed to restore all things anew, grant in Thy mercy that all the families of nations, rent asunder by the wound of sin, may be subjected to His most gentle rule, Who with Thee lives and reigns in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God world without end.
Amen.
lol. I guess that's how the RC apologist does it. Redefine the question. Answer it yourself. And then end the discussion.
I'm happy you've changed your blasphemous tag to a verse from the Psalms.
Let's see how long that lasts.
Another Litany to the Holy Spirit
Lord, have mercy on us. Lord, have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy on us. God the Father of Heaven, Have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world, Have mercy on us.
God the Holy Spirit, Have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God, Have mercy on us.
Divine Essence, one true God, Have mercy on us
Spirit of truth and wisdom, Have mercy on us
Spirit of holiness and justice, Have mercy on us
Spirit of understanding and counsel, Have mercy on us
Spirit of love and joy, Have mercy on us
Spirit of peace and patience, Have mercy on us
Spirit of longanimity and meekness, Have mercy on us
Spirit of benignity and goodness, Have mercy on us
Love substantial of the Father and the Son, Have mercy on us
Love and life of saintly souls, Have mercy on us
Fire ever burning, Have mercy on us
Living water to quench the thirst of hearts, Have mercy on us
From all evil, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From all impurity of soul and body, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From all gluttony and sensuality, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From all attachments to the things of the earth, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From all hypocrisy and pretense, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From all imperfections and deliberate faults, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From our own will, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From slander, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From deceiving our neighbors, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From our passions and disorderly appetites, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From our inattentiveness to Thy holy inspirations, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From despising little things, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From debauchery and malice, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From love of comfort and luxury, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From wishing to seek or desire anything other than Thee, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
From everything that displeases Thee, Deliver us, O Holy Spirit.
Most loving Father, forgive us.
Divine Word, have pity on us.
Holy and divine Spirit, leave us not until we are in possession of the Divine Essence, Heaven of heavens.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Send us the divine Consoler.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Fill us with the gifts of Thy Spirit.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Make the fruits of the Holy Spirit increase within us.
V. Come, O Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful,
R. And enkindle in them the fire of Thy love.
V. Send forth Thy Spirit and they shall be created,
R. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth.
Let us Pray:
God, Who by the light of the Holy Spirit instructed the hearts of the faithful, grant us by the same Spirit to be truly wise and ever to rejoice in His consolation. Through Jesus Christ Our Lord,
Amen.
“”It is not the physical manifestation that points to the Spirit, but His nature:””
Partially true,but it was Christ first Miracle that cemented this belief with disciples
“This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee; and manifested his glory, and his disciples believed in him.-John 2:11 Douay-Rheims
The following from the late Martyn Lloyd-Jones-who by the way was a reformed preacher that I always loved although I disagree with some of his theology at time-many of his sermons exude much love....
“We are studying John’s account of the wedding at Cana not only because it is a record of a historical event but because it is a miracle. The Son of God here on earth worked miracles. It was one of his ways, as John puts it, of showing us, of giving a sign, that He is indeed the Son of God. But we are interested in this incident primarily because it is at the same time a parable. John’s theme in his Gospel is that our Lord came to give us life which is life indeed, and this incident shows us how this fullness, this ‘grace upon grace’, is to be received”.-Martyn Lloyd-Jones
BTW, I don’t use the KJV because it’s packed full of errors,even many protestant scholars agree-this has been discussed many time here on FR.
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Litany of the Passion
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Is a title blasphemous and insane because it does not correspond with your taste in language?
There is faith, and there is reason. Faith cannot be reduced to reason — but if one tries to do that, it seems to me one loses both.
May the Holy Spirit be with you, dear sister in Christ!
I regret every word of this post.
I don’t think so.
Can God want to be unholy? Can God want to sin?
Keep reading the Bible to learn what "sovereignty of God" actually means.
God cannot act against His holy nature.
As opposed to a weekly service at a “Bible believing” church where one would be subjected to an hour of some preacher’s misinterpretation of one of Saint Paul’s epistles.
I perceive this as making it about the poster.
Revelation 5:8 (The Message)
My own take on the issue is that our prayers here matter greatly because it is here that we are tempted with all manner of distractions and competitions for our time and energy. Similarly, here, where we have tears, they are bottled for Heavenly use at some point.
Hebrews speaks of:
HEBREWS 11:
13-16Each one of these people of faith died not yet having in hand what was promised, but still believing. How did they do it? They saw it way off in the distance, waved their greeting, and accepted the fact that they were transients in this world. People who live this way make it plain that they are looking for their true home. If they were homesick for the old country, they could have gone back any time they wanted. But they were after a far better country than that—heaven country. You can see why God is so proud of them, and has a City waiting for them.
17-19By faith, Abraham, at the time of testing, offered Isaac back to God. Acting in faith, he was as ready to return the promised son, his only son, as he had been to receive him—and this after he had already been told, "Your descendants shall come from Isaac." Abraham figured that if God wanted to, he could raise the dead. In a sense, that's what happened when he received Isaac back, alive from off the altar.
20By an act of faith, Isaac reached into the future as he blessed Jacob and Esau.
21By an act of faith, Jacob on his deathbed blessed each of Joseph's sons in turn, blessing them with God's blessing, not his own—as he bowed worshipfully upon his staff.
22By an act of faith, Joseph, while dying, prophesied the exodus of Israel, and made arrangements for his own burial.
23By an act of faith, Moses' parents hid him away for three months after his birth. They saw the child's beauty, and they braved the king's decree.
24-28By faith, Moses, when grown, refused the privileges of the Egyptian royal house. He chose a hard life with God's people rather than an opportunistic soft life of sin with the oppressors. He valued suffering in the Messiah's camp far greater than Egyptian wealth because he was looking ahead, anticipating the payoff. By an act of faith, he turned his heel on Egypt, indifferent to the king's blind rage. He had his eye on the One no eye can see, and kept right on going. By an act of faith, he kept the Passover Feast and sprinkled Passover blood on each house so that the destroyer of the firstborn wouldn't touch them.
29By an act of faith, Israel walked through the Red Sea on dry ground. The Egyptians tried it and drowned.
30By faith, the Israelites marched around the walls of Jericho for seven days, and the walls fell flat.
31By an act of faith, Rahab, the Jericho harlot, welcomed the spies and escaped the destruction that came on those who refused to trust God.
32-38I could go on and on, but I've run out of time. There are so many more— Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel, the prophets....Through acts of faith, they toppled kingdoms, made justice work, took the promises for themselves. They were protected from lions, fires, and sword thrusts, turned disadvantage to advantage, won battles, routed alien armies. Women received their loved ones back from the dead. There were those who, under torture, refused to give in and go free, preferring something better: resurrection. Others braved abuse and whips, and, yes, chains and dungeons. We have stories of those who were stoned, sawed in two, murdered in cold blood; stories of vagrants wandering the earth in animal skins, homeless, friendless, powerless—the world didn't deserve them!—making their way as best they could on the cruel edges of the world.
39-40Not one of these people, even though their lives of faith were exemplary, got their hands on what was promised. God had a better plan for us: that their faith and our faith would come together to make one completed whole, their lives of faith not complete apart from ours.
The Message (MSG)
Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson
When I consider Scripture and the CONVINCING BIBLICAL HEAVENLY VISITATIONS taken together . . . I don't find, per se, a single instance that I can recall of Heavenly personages praying for earthbound folks.
The Heavenly spiritual activities, other than teaching aborted children the ways of God . . . and evidently reading books, interestingly . . . I don't recall a single case of anyone commenting on or observing Heavenly personages praying--including Mary who was seen by one or two teaching said children. She was characterized in her role there as no one all that Special.
ALL THE SPIRITUAL ACTIVITY was described IN EVERY CASE, as WORSHIPPING GOD--THE FATHER, THE LAMB.
IN EVERY CASE, the personages of Heaven are without affectation, pretense, ostentaciouisness, puffery, artifice.
Sometimes they are characterized as enjoying such things as a picnic with family--one visitor being invited on such a picnic but left Heaven too early to go with the family.
Heaven in every case was characterized as a place of EXTREME LIFE, LIGHT, JOY, PEACE, LOVE . . . flowing from The Father, The Throne, The Son. There's always great purposefulness. There's no anxiety. There's no compulsion.
It is reasonable to assume that once one reaches Heaven, the duties of prayer--at least in the conventional earthly sense--are over. Certainly there is NO sense of any hint of a BURDEN OF PRAYER.
NOR is there any sense that graduated saints are all that fussed up, concerned, even greatly interested in all the details occurring on earth--even though there were seen in some cases--well lit stadia--no look closely within was allowed but the impression was that the stadia represented somehow watching some dramatic events on earth.
Yet, the impression in virtually every case has been that events on earth are playing out as they will. And graduated saints in Heaven are enjoying their Heavenly rest and going about Heavenly things largely unconcerned about earthly things.
There is often an exhortation from some of the Disciples or Patriarchs or a departed loved one met in Heaven that earth bound believers MUST DO ALL THEY CAN to help others come to saving knowledge of Jesus as well as to be OVERCOMERS in their own spiritual walks. Yet, it's a kind of mentor's exhortation. A loving press to be mindful of highest priority things.
Hebrews 12:1 (The Message) Hebrews 12 Discipline in a Long-Distance Race 1-3Do you see what this means—all these pioneers who blazed the way, all these veterans cheering us on? It means we'd better get on with it. Strip down, start running—and never quit! No extra spiritual fat, no parasitic sins. Keep your eyes on Jesus, who both began and finished this race we're in. Study how he did it. Because he never lost sight of where he was headed—that exhilarating finish in and with God—he could put up with anything along the way: Cross, shame, whatever. And now he's there, in the place of honor, right alongside God. When you find yourselves flagging in your faith, go over that story again, item by item, that long litany of hostility he plowed through. That will shoot adrenaline into your souls!
My "taste in language" matters as much as my taste in luncheon meats.
What matters is the word of God, and titles given to Mary such as "Tower of David" and "Morning Star" are blasphemous.
Who is the Morning Star in Scripture?
"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." -- Revelation 22:16
So I ask you -- do Roman Catholics actually understand what they're saying?
It was about a changing tag.
From the previous long and windy posts, it appears quantity counts above all.
It's always a joyous surprise when any Roman Catholic references the The Great Commission.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." -- Matthew 28:18-20"...All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
So we are commissioned to preach and teach the truth. And in knowing the truth we thus discard and deny the errors.
Wherever and whenever they may sprout.
Astounding.
"Morning star, pray for us."
"Queen conceived without Original Sin, pray for us."
Sinless prior to what particular sin? Bizarre.
Makes one wonder what use Jesus really is to them. Why pray to Mary when they could have God, but instead, they continuously run to SuperWoman to save the day. Tragic.
Sinless prior to what particular sin? Bizarre.
Wow. I missed that one. That is amazing, isn't it? It shows that the church in Rome preaches another Gospel; another Christ.
"Conceived without original sin."
You'd think the writers of Scripture would have told us about such an amazing event if something this novel actually had occurred which contradicts just about every page of God's word, not to mention it denies the Christian understanding of sin and redemption.
The hole they dig grows daily.
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