Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
“”How does something physical “eat” an illusion?””
Very simple -Magicians make things appear and dissipear all the time or make something look realthat not even there. Only God can produce a TRUE Miracle and that’s why the pharisees committed unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit by attributing Christ’s miracles to the work of the devil;-The pharisees were the theoligians of their day and they knew perfectly well that ONLY God can produce a real miracle-that’s why they committed unpardonable sin
... And by the way no is arguing against the Miracle of Moses-it was the work of God-not Moses
As Blessed Saint Padre Pio used to say when people thanked him for the many miracles in their lives ..Saint Pio would always say...”Thank God for those Miracles,I performed no miracles,it was God who did that -all I did was pray for you”
Enjoy your defense of the devil,it’s very telling by the other comments you make
Did you get named the new Religion Monitor (assistant to THE Religion Moderator) or sumthin???
What parish do you belong to? Who is your Bishop?
Tell me. Now. Are you a 4 point or a five point Calvinist? Do 4-leaf clovers grow in your back yard? Have you ever been to Scotland? What year did Robert the Bruce die? Who is buried in grant’s tomb. Don’t ever talk to me again, I mean it
Judith , I know you guys hate it, but you are all Roman rite catholics or Roman Catholics .
A drive through my city shows signs in front of all the churches proudly proclaiming Roman Catholic
Are you guys ashamed of the Vatican in Rome, your Pope that is in Rome?
Thanks......
Presbyterian is a Biblical form of church government .. not a doctrine
All the Roman Catholics that I knew in real life, made sure that everyone KNEW that they were ROMAN Catholic, just like the non-Roman Catholics made sure everyone knew they were not of Rome.
It was a matter of considerable pride on both parts that people understood that they were not the *others*.
Why do you think that was necessary?
LOL!
So because he saved her she never sinned again? Interesting doctrine for those of us that are saved and still sin
I didn’t say it was a doctrine.
Not at all. I just want to know who I’m talking to, with respect to religion. After all, it isn’t just Catholic/Non-Catholic, it’s Catholic/Presbyterian/Baptist/Lutheran/Anglican/Methodist/etc.
People make demands on Catholics all the time, demand we explain this and that, and they THINK they know what we believe. No matter how many times we tell them, they still demand hairsplitting explanations. They tell us what we believe, how we vote, how many times we read the Bible, how we do it wrong, etc.
So, I want to know who I’m talking to, that is demanding explanations of every freaking word printed by anybody who was ever Catholic.
See this is what makes Protestants LOL at the concept of "canonization"
Padre Pio was an Italian Franciscan who got the visible stigmata in 1918 after having pains in his hands and feet and side on and off since 1915. He was supposed to have the power to read minds and be in two places at the one time. His blood was perfumed and he was thought to have made the wounds himself and kept them open with carbolic acid and used eau-de-cologne for the allegedly miraculous fragrance. Carbolic acid does not cause wounds but burns but could certainly be useful to prevent infection and avoid the need to keep re-inflicting the wounds.
An Archbishop thought that and astonishingly, even a pro-Pio booklet confesses that there was a smell of carbolic acid from the wounds at times (Who is Padre Pio? page 15). The Archbishop, Pasquale Gagliardi, was found out to have engaged in illegal activities but that does not mean he lied about the stench. Pope John Paul II was an accessory to paedophilia for having done nothing about it and Pio’s supporters believe all he says about Pio who he canonised and they damn the Archbishop though his evil was nothing compared to that of the pope. The Archbishop had no need to falsely accuse Pio of having a carbolic smell in his wounds as if to suggest carbolic was being used to make the wounds for at that time it was popularly believed that autosuggestion and hypnosis could produce the wounds and it would have been safer for the Archbishop to use that line. Not only could an accusation of physically making the wounds end up being exposed as just a smear but he would have had more hope of winning over Pio’s fans had he taken the safe road.
In 2007, it was reported that Pio may have used carbolic acid to keep his wounds open and uninfected.
A pharmacist testified that Pio met her in 1919 at the end of July, and she wrote, “Padre Pio called me to him in complete secrecy and telling me not to tell his fellow brothers, he gave me personally an empty bottle, and asked if I would act as a chauffer to transport it back from Foggia to San Giovanni Rotondo with four grams of pure carbolic acid. He explained that the acid was for disinfecting syringes for injections. He also asked for other things, such as Valda pastilles.”
The secrecy clearly proves that Pio was up to something. Why be so secretive if the acid really was for disinfecting syringes? Why keep the brothers in the dark? Why not get the acid from the local doctors?
A pharmacist backed this story up. He reported to Bishop Monsignor Salvatore Bella that he thought Pio was using the acid to irritate his wounds and saw a letter in which Pio requested, “I am in need of 200g or 300g of carbolic acid for sterilising. I pray you to send it to me on Sunday.”
People reported a stench of carbolic acid from Pio. He did not pick this up by sterilising needles for the sick. Others who did the sterilising didn’t smell at all thanks to their protective clothing. And thought Pio had pains in his hands? He would have been of little use among the sick. It is not likely he sterilised much and if he was we must ask then why would Pio have been so keen on sterilising? Was it to get access to the acid to make his wounds?
The Archbishop was not the only one remarking about the carbolic acid smell.
Incredibly the same booklet claims that Pio occasionally exuded the smell of tobacco! And it adds that the smell was faint at times and strong at other times. Pio did nothing to hide the smell though his followers boast about how humble he was and hated attention and was even ashamed of his stigmata. They might say Pio could not disguise the smell for it was a miracle but that is too hard to believe. God would not pull off such mundane stunts. When saints have an aroma (you will understand why I do not designate the smell of tobacco as an aroma!) it is regarded as a special miracle marking out a man as so holy that even his body smells nice even though he has not been using scent. Pio had no problem then with this tobacco substitute for an “I am holy and humble” tattoo on the forehead. One thing is for sure when a person has a nice smell that is supposedly a miracle you can be sure that it is not. No sensible God would do such a mundane and easily duplicated miracle. Those who believe in this miracle are making the same mistake as those who say that the miracles of super-psychics are real though there are professional magicians who can do exactly the same things by trickery. Their prejudice and selectiveness is disturbing and Pio is to blame for that. He and they didn’t think much of their all-wise God.
I do love tulips
Big deal. If someone posts an article by Benny Hinn, or Rick Warren or John MacArthur or Spurgeon or Piper ,and claim that it is true without doubt, we might be all over it, maybe we agree, maybe we don’t. I really doubt one of us would call another a bigot for defending or attacking it.
And for that you hound people for personal information that could compromise their screen name and then decide not to post to them again because they won’t provide it?
Why is it so important to you to know our identities?
So, why do YOU get on every open Catholic discussion thread?
Of course you would believe the doubters- that’s what people who hate extremely humble servants of God do.
Padre Pio was able to tell people their sins before confession as well and there are many witnessed to many things is Saint Pio’s life-all of which has a loving ending and all of which glorifies God.
I see you spend a large portion of your day again posting anti Catholic bigotry -What a shame and waste of time!
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