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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: netmilsmom

When I said the rosary I thought about the mystery when I read it.. and then thought about the prayers when I said them.. I never figured out how to meditate on 2 separate thoughts at the same time


1,421 posted on 05/03/2010 3:18:57 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; hope; ...

Some folks’ reality testing seems to be slipping on this thread.

Amazing. Evidently God’s Truth has struck home to a very uncomfortable degree.


1,422 posted on 05/03/2010 3:19:20 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Judith Anne; RnMomof7

Actually, by admitting that she is Catholic, according to all the FRoman Catholics herein on this thread, that should answer all the questions we have about what she believes, so there is no need to ask that any more.

The only reason that anyone does is that when some former Catholic comes clean about what the Catholic church teaches and the FRoman Catholics come back with *That’s not true, that’s not what Catholics believe* then of course they are going to be asked what they believe.

Again, it gets back to the positive telling what you really do believe, vs the endless negative *No, we don’t believe that, try again* tactic.

If someone is going to tell me that I have wrong information, I fully expect them to provide the right information instead of being left to guess over and over again.

Otherwise, I can rightly conclude they have nothing of value to add and that I was right in the first place.


1,423 posted on 05/03/2010 3:19:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Judith Anne

No.

It’s not that I can’t.

It’s that some folks don’t deserve such a courtesy for the 48th time.


1,424 posted on 05/03/2010 3:20:31 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7; Judith Anne
You need only consult the original dogmatic declaration by Blessed Pius IX.

We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.

1,425 posted on 05/03/2010 3:21:11 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: jacquej

MUCH AGREE.

Take care.

If you read more of the thread, it’s a riot.

God have mercy . . . off to dinner.

Blessings,


1,426 posted on 05/03/2010 3:21:47 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Pyro7480

WHAT FARCICAL NONSENSE

as I’ve demonstrated at length.


1,427 posted on 05/03/2010 3:22:17 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Pyro7480

How DARE you post FACTS on this thread?!?!?!?!


1,428 posted on 05/03/2010 3:22:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Judith Anne
Your denominationa?

Nondenominationa!

1,429 posted on 05/03/2010 3:23:35 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Quix; RnMomof7

I was answering what RnMomof7 claimed about Catholic teaching. The dogmatic definition clearly indicated that Our Lord preemptively and actively saved her, as He is clearly able to do.


1,430 posted on 05/03/2010 3:24:10 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: metmom; Judith Anne; Quix; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; wmfights

I really want to know the consequences for asking Catholics about their beliefs on religious threads. Must be... exciting


1,431 posted on 05/03/2010 3:24:27 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: netmilsmom

My son played the french horn ..great and difficult instrument,,they are like Protestants..they have their own mind ..LOL


1,432 posted on 05/03/2010 3:25:37 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: boatbums

Respect mah authorita!


1,433 posted on 05/03/2010 3:26:06 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix

There’s a difference between beliefs and denomination.

There are many denominations which share basically the same beliefs.

Catholicism is not all as united as it likes to put forth. There are different flavors of Catholicism as there are Protestantism.

For example, besides the classic vanilla Roman Catholic, there’s Eastern Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Ukrainian Catholic, Community of the Lady of All Nations, the Palmarian Catholic Church, the Philippine Independent Church, the Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church, and the Free Catholic Church.


1,434 posted on 05/03/2010 3:28:08 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

Then what does post 1396 mean? Here it is:

Some folks seem to delight in being absolutely outrageously . . . unaware . . . to put it extremely mildly.

I joined FR in Asia. Had I been in one of my duty stations there, a lot of what I typed would have been a serious hazard to me and definitely a serious hazard to those I related to about spiritual things and other things.

Most of me doesn’t give a rip that some rabid clique sorts of folks do not seem to have the where-with-all to wrap their understanding around such facts.

I guess some folks will just have to break their arm slapping their backs over how wonderful their cluelessness is.

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1,435 posted on 05/03/2010 3:28:47 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Quix

I am trying to catch up with it.

Just today, as I was taking a rest, I started thinking about Chist’s suffering an the Cross, taking on our sins, so that we could be saved. I started to cry, because none of us deserve His sacrifice, and I felt (feel) so ashamed.

Not just for my own weaknesses and failures, but for the rest of the human race.

We should be so ashamed, but we just go on, failing, sinning, but trying to justify it all.

The only place I can think of to go, with my tears and grief, is “unto him”.


1,436 posted on 05/03/2010 3:31:55 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Quix

Here’s another one: 1364

Some folks have jobs . . . and/or express things hereon . . . which make disclosing much about their personal lives very DANGEROUS.

That’s the case for me though I’ve posted far more than has been wise.

It is all the worse if I end up a missionary again in Asia.

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1,437 posted on 05/03/2010 3:32:33 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

I won’t post information what would compromise my screen name, and you won’t answer the questions asked you and this is the best you can do, never post to me again?

So take your ball and go home.


1,438 posted on 05/03/2010 3:33:13 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Judith Anne; metmom; editor-surveyor; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg

Seriously, there are some strange people out there. some of us have had reasons to be concerned. Let it go


1,439 posted on 05/03/2010 3:35:20 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Judith Anne

I believe there is one missionary from China that sometimes posts here.. For some their very lives are at risk if they are found out..

It is easy to be brave if it is not your neck in the block


1,440 posted on 05/03/2010 3:35:48 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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