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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

. . .

.

7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Ya know what Truman said right?


1,041 posted on 05/03/2010 8:40:48 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

True. I did not keep the comparisons parallel. The bottom line is that many religions are “anti” something in their core beliefs and Freepers shall have a place to express themselves, i.e. “open” Religion Forum threads.


1,042 posted on 05/03/2010 8:41:30 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Lorica

s/b Anti-Catholicism and Anti-LDS are evidently part of Protestant beliefs.


1,043 posted on 05/03/2010 8:41:31 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: netmilsmom; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
Such is embedded
in Roman Catholicism et al
. . .
Odd it would be
a question
from that perspective!

LOL.

The Vatican and cohorts ARE centuries old

MASTERS

at PRACTICED,
HARSH, RIGID, FIERCE,
BOMBASTIC,
ABUSIVE
EXCLUSIONIST,
EXCLUSIVIST
HERESIES.

TOWARD THOSE
IT ALONE
DEFINED AS
BEYOND THE PALE
OUT-GROUPS.

Sooooooooooooooooooooo

Such wailing and
dust throwing,
thin skin slashing
hereon
is
REALLY
NO
SURPRISE!

1,044 posted on 05/03/2010 8:41:31 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wagglebee

What church is that anyway..I have never been to Europe. My church does not even have a cross..


1,045 posted on 05/03/2010 8:41:51 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Lorica

Thank you.


1,046 posted on 05/03/2010 8:42:14 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: roamer_1

WELL PUT.

THX.


1,047 posted on 05/03/2010 8:43:00 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

Thanks for your touching concern.

I tend to be quite calm in my postings hereon.

The fonts, colors and word choices do not seem to correlate with any altering of that calmness.


1,048 posted on 05/03/2010 8:45:15 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Religion Moderator

On that we agree..

I happen to like Catholics and I suspect many of the Catholics here have protestant friends..

This should never be personal..


1,049 posted on 05/03/2010 8:45:21 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Scripture tells us to have an answer for every man for the hope we have in us..
Shutting down doctrinal discussion does not help the Catholic church, anyone that can not defend their faith, or that is disturbed by it only shows they hold a weak anemic faith that can only survive without thought or challange

==

INDEED.


1,050 posted on 05/03/2010 8:46:12 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7

We can debate and disagree. I am deeply grateful for your prayers for my sil and his family, they are doing better but still have a rough road in front of them.

I want to be FRiends. I hope we can be. If not, I will still commend you to Christ.


1,051 posted on 05/03/2010 8:47:28 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Religion Moderator

WELL PUT, imho.

And I’ve never noticed you using difficult-to-understand

vocabulary

in such cautions.


1,052 posted on 05/03/2010 8:47:38 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7

INDEED!


1,053 posted on 05/03/2010 8:48:09 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: count-your-change

I thought they were lobbing tear gas from all the crying going on but it turns out that’s just a big ol’ bottle of Hurt Feelings perfume spilled.
Now, anyone need a glass of punch?

==

LOL.

WELL PUT.

THX.


1,054 posted on 05/03/2010 8:49:07 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

I already consider you an FRiend ...I happen to really like spunky nurses :)

I also like maddog and waggle et el ... solid debate always wins my respect ..


1,055 posted on 05/03/2010 8:50:04 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: blue-duncan

WELL PUT.

THX.


1,056 posted on 05/03/2010 8:50:40 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7

Judith, I guess I would prefer no posts be pulled.. if we can not disagree and debate and at the end of the day still like each other as people then we all have a problem ..

It ya hit at me I will block and punch and know you will do the same..
We are overly sensitive today IMHO.. Luther and Erasmus hit hard at each other..but held each other in personal respect..

I respect people who defend their faith..

All this to say you are OK with me:)

= = =

INDEED TO THE MAX.

IT NEVER FAILS . . . when the Roman Catholic et al side gets pummeled good

on the field of ideas, practices, beliefs, history, logic, Scripture

then they wail, whine, throw dust in the air and run screaming to the authoritiy’s “apron strings.”

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo impressive.

Not.


1,057 posted on 05/03/2010 8:52:42 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: count-your-change

Punch? Did somebody say “punch”? That’s thread of violence! I demand .... wait, a GLASS of punch?

Never mind. ;-D


1,058 posted on 05/03/2010 8:52:53 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: RnMomof7

It’s All Saints Lutheran Church (also known as Castle Church) in Wittenberg, Germany.

It is the church where Luther nailed the 95 Theses.

The tomb is Luther’s (Melanchthon’s tomb is also inside).

Luther and Melanchthon are shown kneeling in front of the Crucifix.

The stained-glass window of four men was done in 1983 showing Reformers. Most of the statues are of Reformers.

There was a fire in the 18th century that nearly destroyed the church and extensive renovations in the 19th century, so there is no way a case can be made that they just “kept the Catholic stuff”.

So, I have to wonder, why no outrage over this being done at the birthplace of the Reformation?


1,059 posted on 05/03/2010 8:53:20 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: RnMomof7

INDEED.

I agree and feel quite similarly.


1,060 posted on 05/03/2010 8:55:35 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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