Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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If I understand correctly, this is the rationale: If the offensive comment was repeated in the posts requesting moderation, they need to be removed as well so that the comment does not remain on the forum anywhere.
>>Dr. Eckleburg, never accuse another Freeper or group of Freepers of being jihadist.<<
I repectfully disagree.
I’m a Catholic FReeper. I AM the Catholic Church.
If a FReeper had stated that the American government were jihadists, is that not to include me? I am the American Govenment.
If it does not include the Catholic FReepers, who is it pointed at? I think it’s an important point that the Catholic FReepers should know for future discussion.
It implies that Mary is god. Absurd on it's face. One needs to decide how many gods there are. One needs to decide if god is male or female. One needs a deep study on the attributes of G-d. Did Mary offer two turtledoves at the Why did she offer the two turtledoves ? If you analyze the phrase "Mother of God"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
it implies that G-d is not G-d.
temple after the birth of Yah'shua ?
Leviticus 12 might offer some explanation.
Focus on verse eight. Was Mary unclean ?
In order for something to be "making it personal" on the Religion Forum, it must be speaking of another Freeper, individually.
The only place on the Religion Forum where Freepers may express their "anti" beliefs are "open" RF threads. Remember that the "anti" beliefs are part of the doctrine or dogma of some religions. I will not gag Freepers on "open" threads because some other posters "take it personally."
In other words, "open" Religion Forum threads are in a town square format. Posters argue for and against beliefs. They may ridicule or condemn religions, beliefs, religious authorities, deities, etc. It can become very contentious.
Thin-skinned posters on “open” RF threads are the disruptors. They often take statements against their deeply held beliefs very personally. And whereas I can and do intervene to prevent posters from “making it personal” there is nothing I can do to keep a poster from “taking it personally.” And some posters are drawn like a moth to the flame.
If you "take it personally" then you should complete IGNORE "open" RF threads and instead read and post to RF "caucus" "ecumenical" "devotional" or "prayer" threads.
>>Remember that the “anti” beliefs are part of the doctrine or dogma of some religions<<
I have never gotten this, and it’s a genuine question.
Could you please explain that further? What part of one’s salvation is based on “anti” beliefs?
Also, I have to go give a box of kitties back to their owners so I’ll be back. I’m not ignoring you. Later. :-)
Blood pressure problems? Praying the Rosary can help bring peace of mind. The Our Father, the Credo, the Glory Be, the Fatima prayer (Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, and lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy Mercy) and meditating on the events of the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ Jesus our Savior — all those can help lower the blood pressure for folks who are overwrought.
Are you saying that I can make a statement like, "ALL members of [name of religious group] are [pick a defamatory term]," direct that post to a known member of that group and the post WOULD NOT be making it personal?
If FReeper ABC was a member of the Church of XYZ, I could make a post to ABC saying, "ALL XYZers drink pig blood and worship Satan" and that FReeper XYZ would be dismissed as a thin-skinned disruptor for taking it personally?
Whether one considers it well defended or not, we do have a faith to defend.
I don't believe the FR Reformed do.
Here on the religion forum, the ratio of positive exposition of Reformed doctrine to the negative attempts to deconstruct Catholic doctrine is quite revealing.
It seems the FReformed exist for the sole purpose of proving Catholicism wrong.
It seems the FReformed don't evangelize so much as make the end goal of their efforts here the formulation of posts designed to bring them personal satisfaction.
However, the negative efforts of the FReformed do have a positive: through their efforts, they have affirmed Catholicism.
How does that play out? It is just a word game nares.. There is in practice no difference in the way Catholics treat Mary, in prayer or practice than they do Christ
I am not protesting, just pointing out a fact.. there is no further need for a priesthood, the type is fulfilled and the last sacrifice offered..
Excellent post!
Using the Biblically defined means and method certainly can do no harm, which is why I pray only to the Father, in the Son's Name.
God Himself saw fit to define Himself as Father, and to place Christ in the form of an everlasting High Priest and Intercessor - Why wouldn't we use the means He has provided?
But then again, I am less concerned with abstract concepts, and tend to follow the Bible's instruction... At least where it is explicit and without question.
My BP was
IIRC, 134 over 83 Friday.
Not as good as the 120 over 70 the last time but not bad for 63 years old, IIRC.
No, not a fact. An opinion.
There may be a message in that bottle.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Early reformation churches often had Catholic like Icons..it took many to remove that from their system , I will only note in defense of their Catholic look alike churches that you see no one lighting candles or putting flowers in front of them :)
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