Imagine all the differences with no JFK, no Vietnam, no 1960s, Roosevelt as only a two term President, imagine all the post WWII liberalism and the 1965 immigration act erased.
Posted on 04/29/2010 10:34:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
The controversy over Arizona's immigration law should be used to highlight the shameful role of the Roman Catholic Church in facilitating the foreign invasion of the U.S.
This scandal deserves as much attention as the seemingly never-ending cases of sexual child abuse involving priests.
In a major embarrassment for followers of the U.S. Catholic Church, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles compared Arizona's new law to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques." He actually wrote this on his personal blog, under the headline, "Arizona's Dreadful Anti-Immigrant Law."
Mahony is described by the Los Angeles Times as "a nationally influential figure who heads the nation's largest Roman Catholic archdiocese with 4.3 million members." In other words, he is not a fringe player. Indeed, he is typical of Catholic Church leaders.
Why do Catholic officials want to encourage illegal immigration? The answer is quite simple. Most of the illegal aliens are Catholics. Plus, the church makes lots of government money by hosting and serving the immigrants.
These facts are considered by some to be anti-Catholic, which is why you seldom read or hear about them in the major media. But the fact is that millions of American Catholics are disgusted and outraged by the Catholic hierarchy's statements and antics on this issue. They are organizing across the country.
James Russell, a Catholic who serves as National Secretary of Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, tells the story of betrayal of America by the Catholic Bishops in the book, Breach of Faith: American Churches and the Immigration Crisis.
In a major decision this week, the Supreme Court ruled that a Christian cross could remain on public land, despite the so-called separation of church and state. It has become a national controversy. But where is the debate or discussion over the Catholic Bishops getting $51 million a year from the government? A lot of that money is being used to cater to immigrants, legal and illegal. These immigrants, in turn, go to church, contribute to the collection plate, and vote the way the liberal priests and bishops dictate.
In short, the evidence shows that the Catholic Church hierarchy has become an agent of the government in facilitating a foreign invasion of the United States. There is no other way to describe it.
This explosive story of scandal and corruption must be told because "comprehensive immigration reform" cannot be defeated unless the role of the Catholic Church is exposed and addressed.
If you are in the market for more outrageous statements from Catholic officials, take a look at Russell's book, Breach of Faith. He notes that Cardinal Edward Egan of New York and Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn supported and addressed a 2003 illegal alien "Freedom Riders" rally in Flushing Meadows Park in New York, "not far from the site where five illegal aliens had assaulted a woman and her boyfriend, then dragged her to a makeshift hut in the vicinity of Shea Stadium, where they repeatedly raped her and nearly beat her to death."
Russell formed the group, Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, in order to expose the Mahony-type characters in the church and church institutions.
In another book, On the Immorality of Illegal Immigration, also distributed by Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, Father Patrick Bascio notes that an estimated 70,000 criminal gang members have infiltrated U.S. cities. His book charges that Catholic Church leaders have aided and abetted "all the evils connected with illegal immigration" and have become corrupted in the process.
In going into detail about Catholic Church corruption on the immigration issue, Russell notes that the Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD) promotes amnesty for illegal aliens through its funding of such groups as ACORN and the Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC). The CCHD is funded by ordinary parishioners asked to provide money to assist the poor.
He says one of many American Catholic Bishops who have "achieved notoriety" for pro-immigration activism is Gerald F. Kicanas of Tucson, Arizona, who solicits donations of cash and first-aid items for illegal aliens making their way into Arizona.
So the Catholic Church in Arizona has aided and abetted the problem that the citizens of Arizona, through their elected representatives, have now decided to confront. It is a major breakthrough.
Russell traces the church's involvement in the entry of illegal aliens into the U.S. to the Marxist-oriented "liberation theology" movement, also known as "social justice." Russell particularly faults Jesuit Catholic institutions such as Georgetown University for adopting this approach and indoctrinating students to be in favor of liberalized immigration policies.
Russell is honest about the motivation behind these efforts, noting that the Catholic Bishops and their agencies, some which get government money to provide services to illegal aliens, "benefit from immigration by increasing the number of Catholics in the United States."
He cites figures that most of the new immigrants to the United States are Catholics coming from Latin America.
He goes on, "When Catholic immigrants become naturalized, they may vote for candidates who support church policies." What's more, he writes, "The network of Catholic agencies relies on high rates of immigrants in need of social services to maintain government funding."
Many Americans don't realize that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), which receives a federal tax exemption as a non-profit entity, gets one-third of its annual $146 million budget from the government.
"The USCCB is generally recognized as the single most active and most influential religious force for liberalization of American immigration policy, as well as for refugee resettlement, and hence merits our scrutiny," Russell writes.
Pastor Ralph Ovadal of Pilgrims Covenant Church in Monroe, Wisconsin, is also providing that scrutiny. Ovadal has been pointing out for years "that the Roman Catholic Church is aiding and abetting the criminal invasion of America from Mexico because the illegals are almost all Roman Catholics."
Ovadal says the leadership of the Roman Catholic Church is "looking to turn America, founded and still a Protestant country, into a Roman Catholic country."
These comments may sound harsh, but when a Catholic writer such as James Russell documents most of the information that lies behind such tough statements, one has to pay serious attention.
If anything, Russell writes, the position of the USCCB over the years has become more radical, to the point where the Bishops are emphasizing that amnesty for illegals-they call it "legalization"-has to be a "central component" of any federal immigration proposal.
Russell makes the case that current religious attitudes toward immigration "did not evolve slowly and authentically from traditional Christianity, but rather have been assiduously advanced by radical intellectuals, both Protestant and Catholic, whose goals have been primarily political, and have run counter to the best interests of the vast majority of native-born American citizens."
The hijacking of the Catholic Church by Marxist elements is now front and center. Who in the major media has the courage and guts to write about it?
Ah yes, I see the Fred Phelpsian protestants are at it again.
Imagine all the differences with no JFK, no Vietnam, no 1960s, Roosevelt as only a two term President, imagine all the post WWII liberalism and the 1965 immigration act erased.
Not great but not bad. We can work with that and strive to improve it, those two votes were both to the right of the general Catholic vote.
The main thing is that we can examine it and see how we can bring Catholic Hispanics around.
A fact not in evidence, Salvation. I made no reference.
Are we friends again?
Sure, no problem at all.
You can prattle all you want, but Mainline Protestants vote Republican and Catholics rarely do.
Mainline Protestants did not vote for Obama, the Catholics did.
I am more interested in how religious groups vote than their internal theology, when it comes to politics.
I must confess that I regard "Blacks and Hispanics" as lost causes, and I don't know why. The closest thing that I can guess (and I am a Noachide, so prepare to perhaps be offended) is that Blacks and Hispanics worship a Black/Hispanic J*sus with completely different priorities, and that white chr*stians worship a "white" (or at least "patriotic American") J*sus. That's one of the inherent problems of making G-d into a man (chas veshalom!).
**Catholics rarely do.**
You are mistaken.
Catholics always vote Republican
CINOs will vote dimocrat at a whim
In front of me it was used in a disrespectful way. I guess it made a big impression, because I never use it.
I don’t know how to reach black voters, they reversed themselves in one election in 1936, and never looked back, and I don’t know how to reach Catholic Hispanics, both of those groups will never be conservative.
Seeing that Protestant Hispanics voted 44% for Bush against a sitting veep in 2000, and then 56% to reelect Bush in 2004, and then went 52% for Obama in the racial tsunami of 2008, gives me hope. Catholic Hispanics went 33%, 33%, 32% Republican in those elections, they are not in play.
There is no question that the 32% of the Hispanic vote that is Protestant is in play, that means that we can fight for them and that also means that they can have some influence with their less conservative Catholic, fellow Hispanics, as white Protestants influence white Catholics.
If we can see the type of movement among Hispanic Catholics that we have seen with white Catholics in the last 30 years, then we could perhaps start dependably winning the overall Catholic vote by a narrow margin.
It is never truly over.
Quit playing games with yourself and conservative politics.
If you must worship at the altar of statistics then please use empirical data which is relevant providing informed information not some general survey which only serves the misinformed and those who lack critical analysis.Your data provided in Post # 62 dating back to 1936 is comical. Why not provide data from the election of George Washington which would be as germane to this discussion as the irrelevant statistics given by your prior post? Learn to use informed and discerning data when making your argument and not embarrass yourself with evidence which can be easily refuted.
You see, that's what I mean. I don't understand this. I can understand opposition to conservative economic policies, but the Black/Hispanic dedication to abortion, homosexuality, and (I suppose) euthenasia simply astounds me. But it's there. So far as I know, every single mainstream Black/Hispanic politician (except for the "uncle toms" and "race traitors") are committed to leftism across the board. Yet Blacks, at least, still worship like right wing West Virginia snake-handling hillbillies.
Once upon a time I actually believed there would eventually be a line that Blacks would not cross. I no longer believe that. Why I do not know, only that slavery is no excuse to turn against G-d A-mighty.
Not playing games.
REAL Catholics vote conservative all the time
CINOs are another matter.
No REAL Catholic would have ever voted for Obortion O and his agenda!
That doesn’t mean we can’t work on converting the CINOs to vote more conservatively. I’m working on one right now. But I’m taking a very subtle road through religion. He won’t know what hit him when he votes Republican!
But maybe you don’t believe in prayers and sacrifices for others.
Shame.
Is that your pious act, make up a question and then answer it without the person that you are lying about getting in between? Why go after a poster personally?
Show me a time when Mainline Protestants are not voting to the right of Catholics.
Good news, that is what I try to inspire by knocking some of the cobwebs from the political perceptions around here.
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