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To: metmom; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; hope; ..
FYI - An anathema is not “Eternal Damnation”. It is only a disassociation by the Church.

A distinction without a difference.

Since the [Roman] Catholic Church [et al] teaches that salvation is through it and it alone, *dissociating* someone from it is condemning them to hell eternally, since until they agree with the [Roman] Catholic [et al] Church, [they supposedly] cannot get back in and be saved.

INDEED--glad you caught that slippery weasel assertion.

That's one of the things about the EDIFICE that few, if any, hereon have been willing to admit--or admit very forthrightly. It's kind of like LDS theology and INSTITUTION. They present themselves as very similar to whatever sort of person they are trying to evangelize. The theology is soooooooo complex, convoluted, rubbery, they can stretch it to fit any evangelizing situation or perspective needed to seduce the likely suspect into their fold.

The Vatican edifice has this long 1600 year history of bureaucratic political power-mongering--wherein all manner of nonsense has been promulgated, believed, practiced, shoved down folks' throats at the point of death or exclusion/excommunication; . . . all over the theological water front in one form or another to one degree or another on almost every conceivable--remotely Christian issue, point &/or context.

And, it's all collected into the extremely lengthy Catechism--which would either do an obsessive Pharisee proud or embarrass him--depending on his candor or mood that day.

I haven't gotten far enough into it to assess to WHAT DEGREE it is internally consistent. HOWEVER, IF THE PRESENTATIONS hereon by the more rabid clique sorts of representatives of the INSTITUTION are ANY clue whatsoever, then I think it likely not greatly more internally consistent than an explosion at an old type-setting factory.

Thankfully, there are a number of faithful Protty Believers hereon who aren't fooled by such slippery, rubbery, mangled DOUBLE STANDARD theological presentments and who are quick to blow the whistle and throw a red flag on the play.

PTL for that!

764 posted on 04/23/2010 12:42:45 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
That's one of the things about the EDIFICE that few, if any, hereon have been willing to admit--or admit very forthrightly. It's kind of like LDS theology and INSTITUTION. They present themselves as very similar to whatever sort of person they are trying to evangelize. The theology is soooooooo complex, convoluted, rubbery, they can stretch it to fit any evangelizing situation or perspective needed to seduce the likely suspect into their fold.

Isn't that what St. Paul did? "To the Jews, I am a Jew, to the Romans, a Roman," etc. Do I have to look up chapter and verse, or are you familiar with that statement of St. Paul's?

766 posted on 04/23/2010 12:45:10 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Quix
"Since the [Roman] Catholic Church [et al] teaches that salvation is through it and it alone, *dissociating* someone from it is condemning them to hell eternally, since until they agree with the [Roman] Catholic [et al] Church, [they supposedly] cannot get back in and be saved."

As usual you haven't a clue. The big, bold, blue font is the dead give away. Try supporting your accusations and confabulations with excerpts from the Catechism or the Canon law rather than the blustering reliance on personal credibility that you use to bully undergrads. That dog don't hunt here.

830 posted on 04/23/2010 7:44:25 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Quix
INDEED--glad you caught that slippery weasel assertion.

Taken out of context that statement could just as easily refer to Mormons.

833 posted on 04/23/2010 7:49:50 AM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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