Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Quix; Iscool
Whenever people ask me for Scriptures which underscore the doctrine of the Trinity, Paul is at the top of my list:

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. – Isaiah 9:6

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: - Matthew 28:19

God's Name is I AM.

1,374 posted on 04/25/2010 7:28:15 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1364 | View Replies ]


To: Alamo-Girl

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

THX.


1,376 posted on 04/25/2010 7:42:26 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1374 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Quix; Iscool
It occurs to me there is one other point I should I have made in my post at 1374:

Man is not the measure of God.

Frequently and oftentimes inadvertently, man anthropomorphizes God by superimposing his own mental limitations onto his spiritual understanding of Who God IS.

For example, God is the Creator of space and time. Space and time are not limitations or properties of the Creator of them.

Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isaiah 46:9-10

Likewise, logic is part of God’s Creation. The Law of the Excluded Middle (either/or) and the Law of Identity (A is A and not B) do not apply to the Creator of them.

And concerning the doctrine of the Trinity, these very anthropomorphisms result in objections to or outright denial of certain Scripture or God Himself.

Christ makes the point here:

Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David. - Matt 22:42

Who God IS cannot be discerned by the natural man:

He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. - Matthew 16:15

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. – I Cor 12:3

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. - I Corinthians 2:14

As another example, the concept of “sent” is captured beautifully in the description of Christ in Hebrews 1:3 where He is described as the brightness of the Father’s glory.

Thus again, the writings of Paul and of John go hand-in-glove.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. – John 1:1-4

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence. For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, [I say], whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.– Colossians 1:15-20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20

God’s Name is I AM.

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. – Exodus 3:14

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. – John 8:58

As soon then as he had said unto them, I am [he], they went backward, and fell to the ground. – John 18:6


1,379 posted on 04/25/2010 8:16:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1374 | View Replies ]

To: Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Quix; Iscool
Whenever people ask me for Scriptures which underscore the doctrine of the Trinity,

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
– Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government
shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful,
Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. – Isaiah 9:6

The child, Yah'shua shall be called the everlasting Father.

Matthew 28:19 is extremely suspect as a later addition
based on the writings of Eusebius' Demonstratio
(1) Book III, Chapter 7, 136 (a-d), p. 157
(2) Book III, Chapter 6, 132 (a), p. 152
(3) Book III, Chapter 7, 138 (c), p. 159
(4) Book IX, Chapter 11, 445 (c), p. 175
(5) Book I, Chapter 3, 6 (a), p. 20
(6) Book I, Chapter 5, 9 (a), p. 24
(7) Book I, Chapter 6, 24 (c), p. 42

Matthew 28:19 before Nicea
"Go, and make disciples of all the nations in My Name,
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you,"
This is more consistent with the ONE TRUE Elohim : YHvH.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
1,381 posted on 04/25/2010 8:24:10 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1374 | View Replies ]

To: Alamo-Girl; metmom; Quix; UriÂ’el-2012; Iscool; 1000 silverlings; the_conscience; ...
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." – Romans 8:9

That is a perfect example of Paul's knowledge of the Trinity. Amen!

God the Father elects.

God the Son redeems.

God the Holy Spirit sanctifies.

Three persons; one God.

Just as Paul tells us in Scripture.

1,425 posted on 04/25/2010 11:33:14 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1374 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson