[metmom]

Indeed, there is no doubt that Luther was a bigot and a failed Catholic.

Interesting the Catholic take on a man who only wanted to have the Catholic church return to the Bible that said Catholic Church not only claims it wrote but takes responsibility for its very existence; the same Bible that it uses to justify its very existence and the papacy.

He's a trouble maker for wanting that and he and his followers are heretics for wanting that?

So, if the Catholic Church claims that it is responsible for the Bible's very existence, why the condemnation of those who want to get back to it? If the Bible is good enough for the Catholic church to use to justify its existence, why is it not good enough for other churches to use to justify their existence?

[count-your-change]

Luther was a reformer, amongst many Catholics, that responded to the corruption endemic to the clergy, much of it revolving around the practice of concubinage with all the moral failures that sustained it, purchases of letters of absolution, the passing on of benefices to illegitimate children, etc.

The sale of indulgences is often mentioned when describing Luther's 95 complaints but not the purpose of the indulgences.

Even the great Erasmus favored ending the sham of the celibacy rule that easily tolerated immoral concubinage but condemned honorable marriage for a clergyman.

But as Luther and others discovered, reform was impossible let alone a restoration to the apostolic church.

[Quix]

Now now.

You should know by now, that the only ‘logic’ they allow is very rubbery pseudo-logic!

. . . preferably having NOTHING whatsoever to do with FACTS! Nor with authentic, objective, unrubberized, true history.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

So, if the Catholic Church claims that it is responsible for the Bible's very existence, why the condemnation of those who want to get back to it? If the Bible is good enough for the Catholic church to use to justify its existence, why is it not good enough for other churches to use to justify their existence?

Great questions.

Could it be that Rome doesn't really want to get back to the Bible at all, but instead wants to chain again the Bible to the alter and translate it back into Latin to keep the unwashed congregants from knowing the truth within it?

[xone]

If the Bible is good enough for the Catholic church to use to justify its existence, why is it not good enough for other churches to use to justify their existence?

Because silly, you aren't Catholic!