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To: netmilsmom; greyfoxx39

Well, I don’t read the Caucuses. I’ve seen even Immigration threads turned into “Why we hate the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” threads. (Truth be told, I’d love to know why, but no one ever says why single the one religion out, they just slam it once one brings it up).

There is nothing good to come from this kind of talking. We have real issues and real threats. The divide and conquer methodology works if people can’t get over their differences. We can be grateful for what unites us, rather than pick apart differences. There is no need to disparage any church simply because you don’t like them.

I applaud netmilmom, because I can see you understand. Well intentioned as some may be, Ingroup, Outgroup dynamics shows that once people see others as a different group, they’ll attack, and they’ll look for bad things about them to keep up the status quo of “us vs. them.” We have to get over that or you’ll wake up with no one left to stand with you.

No one is asking that you can’t have a belief, but you can stop disparaging others round the clock. Look for commonalities, not differences, because I promise when you get separated from others, you’re not better off, unless you are in mortal danger (from those with whom you seperated), and then you had better be able to find others to help, because when you reduce your size of “us” you’ll always grow the “Them.”


125 posted on 04/15/2010 10:54:59 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235; netmilsmom; greyfoxx39
There is no need to disparage any church simply because you don’t like them.

Once again, has the first presidency revoked the first vision, portions of 1 Nephi and excised all the commentary contained in JOD as well as D&C and missionary training? To make such a statement as above, in view of all the very disparaging remarks mormonism has made (and continues to make) towards Christianity is intellectually dishonest and the very least.

Look for commonalities, not differences, . .

Polytheism (mormonism) vs monotheism (Christianity)
Salvation by works (mormonism) vs Salvation by Grace ( Christianity)
Following the leadership of false prophets (mormonism) vs the leadership of the Holy Spirit (Christianity)

We can compare an contrast all day JDW - won't make me sing kome-by-ya with you around the fire - mormonism as a religion is opposed to Christianity across the board.

146 posted on 04/15/2010 11:11:16 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: JDW11235
Ingroup, Outgroup dynamics shows that once people see others as a different group, they’ll attack, and they’ll look for bad things about them to keep up the status quo of “us vs. them.” We have to get over that or you’ll wake up with no one left to stand with you.

Funny you should mention that....

"For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the ‘Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men."

- Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, v. 3, p. 282


Apostle Bruce R. McConkie (1915 - 1985):


"...the Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable, ...But with the Bible it was not and is not so....it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization [Christianity], founded by the devil himself, likened prophetically unto a great whore, whose great aim and purpose was to destroy the souls of men in the name of religion. In these hands it ceased to be the book it once was."

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

“... all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ.... in large part the worship of apostate Christendom is performed in ignorance, as much so as was the worship of the Athenians who bowed the Unknown Gods.”

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 269, 374-375


Prophet Ezra Taft Benson (1899 - 1994):


"This is not just another Church. This is not just one of a family of Christian churches. This is the Church and kingdom of God, the only true Church upon the face of the earth..."

- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 164-165


Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley (1910 - ):


“We accept that as a statement which came to him [Joseph Smith's vision in which he was told all other religions were "abominations"], which is printed, of course, and published in his history as a statement. But we go forward with a friendly relationship, with a respect for people everywhere and with an effort to accept them as we meet them and, where opportunity exists, to talk with them and explain to them what we believe.... We don’t criticize them for what they believe. We accept the good that comes of that understanding which they have, but we feel we having something to offer beyond what they have.”

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Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, interview with Richard Ostling, as quoted in Mormon America, by Richard and Joan Ostling, p. 323

Hinckley admits that the "statement" of Smith exists BUT....

156 posted on 04/15/2010 11:16:14 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Through the annals of time, there has been the Judas kiss, the Brutus stab, and now, the Obama bow.)
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To: JDW11235

You are assuming we can’t multi-task.

If I am the last one standing, and loyal to Christ, then so be it.

I am not in this to win ‘brownie points’ with men, and I can’t with God all I can do is know where my true loyalty lies.


352 posted on 04/16/2010 1:14:30 AM PDT by reaganaut ( I'm not an apostate, God rescued me from Mormonism.)
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To: JDW11235; restornu
Well, I don’t read the Caucuses.

Resty will be sad...

381 posted on 04/16/2010 4:21:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JDW11235
I’ve seen even Immigration threads turned into “Why we hate the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” threads.

Well; considering the PRACTICE of the LDS religious organization over ILLEGALS and the STAEMENTS they've made about them - it's no WONDER!!

382 posted on 04/16/2010 4:22:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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