You, my Dear, are a Prophetess!
Posted on 04/15/2010 8:56:50 AM PDT by T Minus Four
Think of the Salt Lake Temple as a designer bottle holding a one-of-a-kind fragrance.
Think of the gardens and buildings of Temple Square as bubble wrap around that container.
Think of the City Creek Center to the south, the Church Plaza to the east, the Conference Center to the north, and the Family History Library and Church History Museum to the west as a firm, sturdy box around all of it.
When something merits that much protection, you have to figure rough bumps and bounces are coming down the road.
I get a feeling the LDS Church sees turbulence ahead -- nasty weather -- and it is making preparations.
It's not about being defensive and keeping things out.
It's about being protective and keeping precious things safe.
When the chilly winds blow, forest creatures gather all that's life-sustaining about them.
Horses in the fields cluster together to stand against the hail.
I feel the LDS Church battening down the hatches for bad weather.
The Tabernacle Choir, which was performing musical versions of Robert Frost poetry and other secular works, now releases CDs filled with songs of faith, assurance and the need to rely on the Divine.
I feel protection is the point behind the long row of sentries -- those Mormon temples -- that stand along the Wasatch -- the new Brigham City temple, new Payson temple, the new remade Ogden temple and all the others.
I feel protect precious things is the point of the new mission statements of LDS businesses, the point for books that are picked for publication and the lessons selected for manuals.
Part of the world would divide and conquer.
The church would gather and protect.
Something uneasy this way comes. Not a vilent clash as in Jerusalem -- where cultures fight openly. We won't be seeing stone throwers in the streets of Salt Lake City.
The battle here won't be about territory.
It will be about choices -- about the advent of a bolder, more self-indulgent popular culture.
The church can see the writing on the wall -- often literally.
And graffiti on the temple will never do.
It's time -- as the old hymn has it -- to "safely gather in, ere the winter storms begin."
The plan is not to force people away.
The plan is to keep what's on the inside safe from harm.
And if that means putting up ramparts and watchtowers, so be it.
Even heaven, if you believe the stories, is a gated community -- not to keep people away, but to safeguard the gentle hearts of those who dwell there.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail: jerjohn@desnews.com Jerry Earl Johnston chronicles his take on the Mormon experience in his column “New Harmony,” which appears on MormonTimes.com on Wednesdays and Sundays.
Apparently it matters not a whit what was taught, or written, or learned before this minute. It only matters what is said now by the so called prophet of lds. If he changes his mind it’s ok because it only matters what he says when he says it. Honestly I am beginning to think that may be written down some where in a training manual for lds.
It is like talking to someone with amnesia or someone with only short term memory.
I've seen a number of Lds priesthood manuals. I've seen all kinds of putdowns of Christ:
(1) References to Lds as "saviors" of posterity...John Taylor quotes & the like. All having to do with baptizing dead people and becoming their saviors. Competition for Jesus Christ as THE Savior.
(2) Perhaps the worst references in Lds curricula are to Christ being the head of a 1700-year apostate church. Of course, the curricula manuals don't usually cite this quote (but this quote reveals the true meaning whenever Lds curricula claims that the early church apostatized on Jesus): I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the ONLY MAN that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, NOR JESUS ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of JESUS ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet. (History of the Church, Vol, 6, pp. 408-409)
How shameful of a putdown of Christ. Here, Jesus said on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it (Matt. 16:18) -- and yet Mormons accuse Jesus here of being a false prophet...in that his church was indeed overcome!
(3) A reference to "bootstraps" -- like Spencer Kimball's reference to "bootstraps" about men pulling themselves up to godhood. (Hey, if spiritual bootstraps pulling was even possible, who would need JC?) This is a putdown of making Jesus irrelevant.
should you decide to address the name of faith properly I will answer you !
But then again, I will probably be told that it’s my own “bias” for pointing this out.
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Then you are saying you are not bias?
If you can’t understand sarcasm and the fact that the word bias is in quotes, (meaning it’s been posted to me before, by you no less) then I can’t help your inability to ccomprehend.
For you, since you can’t/won’t post anything of substance.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2493616/posts?page=734#734
Oh; we agree!
They do NOT think they are insulting Him.
They TRULY think that doing what the LDS church requires of of them is HONORING him, but, according to biblical teaching - they are not.
They see Jesus throught the filter of MORMONism; not through sound Biblical principals.
They EXCOMMUNICATE people who PRACTICE it!
How crazy is THAT!!??
There's GOT to be a pony in here somewhere!
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
How much FAITH does it take to BELIEVE that Joseph Smith (pbun) actually learned something was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism?
WHOA!!!! Post emergency!
Let trained EMS teams fix this accident...
“I think you are mistaken about Latter-day Saints insulting Jesus (well, except for denying His eternal Godhood, His death and Atonement on the cross, and His Gospel of Grace).”
“I have never heard any talk or lesson or testimony where anyone has said anything demeaning (except that He is a created being, like any angel, satan or spirit), insulting or derogatory (ditto) about Jesus Christ. I have constantly heard the opposite (because we only care about the usage of words - not what they mean).”
“We teach (falsehoods about God and His Glorious Gospel of Grace), testify (by substituting feelings for Truth), exhort (You too can be a God! Get with it!!!), encourage people to believe in Jesus Christ (you know, the mormon jesus), to come unto him (actually, come to our Morg Church, it’s all the same - we’re the restoration, you know. In fact, our jesus was a mormon! really!), to repent of sin (hot drinks especially!!), to follow his teachings (like always to wear magic underwear, or to learn some secret heavenly handshakes, or some spiffy masonic rituals).
Done!
Drive carefully from now on!
Post EMS Services
“should you decide to address the name of faith properly I will answer you !”
Mr. Faith???
You, my Dear, are a Prophetess!
>>rearrange it and say...
4 (cars) * 3(thousands of dollars) = (How much)/2 <<
That’s brilliant!!!!!
I am going to the beach!
Sandy, I know you are still here.
Ping me maybe we can get together for a coffee (hot coco) and a cookie.
A little background is in order, from a recent Internet essay [editing is mine]:
Mark Hofmann was a documents forger who sold several fake documents to Mormon Church Leadership (familiar with the Salamander Letters?). Writings favorable to Mormonism were placed on prominent display; writings deemed damaging to the cause were secreted away.
Hofmann's most famous fabrication was the Salamander Letter. In this writing, supposedly by Book of Mormon Witness Martin Harris, a tenth version of Smith’s First Vision surfaced. In this faux telling, Joseph Smith was visited by an elf who took the form of a salamander.
Mormon leadership verified the authenticity of the letter, apparently relying in large part upon the opinion of forensic documents examiners. Based on his vast knowledge of Mormonism, Gerald Tanner on the other hand immediately denounced the document as a fraud. Tanner was proven right.
The effects of the faked Salamander Letter haunt the Mormon Church to this day.
Mormon Prophets, Spencer Kimball and Gordon Hinckley, were among the duped.
President Hinckley would later 'admit':
“I accepted [Hofmann] to come into my office on a basis of trust … I frankly admit that Hofmann tricked us. He also tricked experts from New York to Utah, however … I am not ashamed to admit that we were victimized. It is not the first time the Church has found itself in such a position. Joseph Smith was victimized again and again. The Savior was victimized. I am sorry to say that sometimes it happens.” – Dew, S. (1996). [Go Forward with Faith: The Biography of Gordon B. Hinckley. Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, p. 432.]
What Hinckley asserted borders on outright blasphemy! Mortals cannot victimize God! Hinckley was clearly inferring that Jesus was victimized, defrauded, tricked, as he and others were by Hofmann ... Hinckley and Mormon leadership lower Jesus's status in order to raise their own fraudulent position.
The Jesus of Christianity, The Lord Of Hosts, The Redeemer was not so feckless that He could be tricked. Mormon leadership have claimed they do not worship the same Jesus as Christianity, so perhaps their Jesus was duped. It appears that Mormonism is seeking to denigrate The Savior, in order to make the pronouncements of Mormonism more necessary. After all, Smith based his entire religious premise on the faux notion that God wasn’t able to keep the Gospel promises Jesus made, so apostasy necessitated the Smithian fabrication of Mormonism. And that is blasphemy writ large.
So yes, you Mormons insult the God of Creation, The Savior, and The Holy Spirit ... and you are so blinded by the utterances of the cult that you are unable to see the TRUTH when presented to you.
Indeed, inquiring minds want to know.
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