Posted on 04/15/2010 8:56:50 AM PDT by T Minus Four
Think of the Salt Lake Temple as a designer bottle holding a one-of-a-kind fragrance.
Think of the gardens and buildings of Temple Square as bubble wrap around that container.
Think of the City Creek Center to the south, the Church Plaza to the east, the Conference Center to the north, and the Family History Library and Church History Museum to the west as a firm, sturdy box around all of it.
When something merits that much protection, you have to figure rough bumps and bounces are coming down the road.
I get a feeling the LDS Church sees turbulence ahead -- nasty weather -- and it is making preparations.
It's not about being defensive and keeping things out.
It's about being protective and keeping precious things safe.
When the chilly winds blow, forest creatures gather all that's life-sustaining about them.
Horses in the fields cluster together to stand against the hail.
I feel the LDS Church battening down the hatches for bad weather.
The Tabernacle Choir, which was performing musical versions of Robert Frost poetry and other secular works, now releases CDs filled with songs of faith, assurance and the need to rely on the Divine.
I feel protection is the point behind the long row of sentries -- those Mormon temples -- that stand along the Wasatch -- the new Brigham City temple, new Payson temple, the new remade Ogden temple and all the others.
I feel protect precious things is the point of the new mission statements of LDS businesses, the point for books that are picked for publication and the lessons selected for manuals.
Part of the world would divide and conquer.
The church would gather and protect.
Something uneasy this way comes. Not a vilent clash as in Jerusalem -- where cultures fight openly. We won't be seeing stone throwers in the streets of Salt Lake City.
The battle here won't be about territory.
It will be about choices -- about the advent of a bolder, more self-indulgent popular culture.
The church can see the writing on the wall -- often literally.
And graffiti on the temple will never do.
It's time -- as the old hymn has it -- to "safely gather in, ere the winter storms begin."
The plan is not to force people away.
The plan is to keep what's on the inside safe from harm.
And if that means putting up ramparts and watchtowers, so be it.
Even heaven, if you believe the stories, is a gated community -- not to keep people away, but to safeguard the gentle hearts of those who dwell there.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail: jerjohn@desnews.com Jerry Earl Johnston chronicles his take on the Mormon experience in his column “New Harmony,” which appears on MormonTimes.com on Wednesdays and Sundays.
I don’t have a problem with your “articles of faith”
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Let’s study for the big test...
Mormonism is NOT Christianity
The foul practice of polygamy is not part of Christianity..
Idol worship of the pagan Joey Smith is not part of Christianity...
Multiple gods are not part of Christianity...
A non-virgin Mary is not part of Christianity...
Only males going to Heaven is not part of Christianity...
Males becoming gods is not part of Christianity...
Males ruling their own planet is not part of Christianity...
A priesthood system as practiced by the mormons is not part of Christianity
Women as abused sex slaves in a harem is not part of Christianity...
Women having babies forever is not part of Christianity...
Women being called from their graves by husbands who decide the woman’s fate is not part of Christianity...
Degradation of women through adultery and so called “celestial marriage” is not part of Christianity...
Three levels of Heaven is not part of Christianity
Sex in Heaven is not part of Christianity…
Men marrying their mother-in-law is not part of Christianity…
Men marrying their daughter-in-law is not part of Christianity..
Men marrying their wife’s sister is not part of Christianity
Special underwear are not part of Christianity..
Special ceremony clothes are not part of Christianity…
Joey Smith deciding who gets into Heaven is not part of Christianity...
Joey Smith as the savior is not part of Christianity...
Recognizing and worshipping the blasphemous Joey Smith is not part of Christianty...
Dead dunking is not part of Christianity...
The belief that David is in Hell is not part of Christianity
The idol on top of the mormon temples is not part of Christianity...
The mormon temples are not part of Christianity...
Gathering in “zion” whether its in Missouri or Utah is not part of Christianity...
The return of the mormon jesus to Missouri is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the garden of Eden was in Missouri is not part of Christianity...
People living on the sun and the moon is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the mormon jesus visited Central America is not part of Christianity...
Freemasonry as practiced by the mormons is not part of Christianity...
Endowments are not part of Christianity...
The book of mormon is not part of Christianity
The tall tales of Joey Smith are not part of Christianity
Mythical ancient civilizations in Central America are not
part of Christianity
The so called “visions” and false prophecies of Joey Smith are not part of Christianity
The mormon Mary having sex with one of the mormon gods is not part of Christianity...
The absence of a cross on a building is not part of Christianity
Pagan and Freemasonry symbols on a building are not part of Christianity
“Going through the temple” is not part of Christianity...
The denial that Jesus is God is not part of Christianity...
The denial that the Holy Ghost is God is not part of Christianity...
The denial of the Trinity is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the mormon god was once a man is not part of Christianity
The belief that the mormon god was a polygamist is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the mormon jesus was a polygamist is not part of Christianity...
The belief that monogamy...one man, one woman...is prostitution is not part of Christianity...
The belief that David went to Hell forever is not part of Christianity.
The belief that David will not be in Heaven is not part of Christianity….
Paying tithes to be saved is not part of Christianity......
Works to be saved is not part of Christianity
Being a member of the mormon corporation is not part of Christianity...
The mormon creeds are not part of Chrsitianity
The mormon jesus sweating in the Garden of Gethsemane for “atonement” is not part of Christianity...
The insulting, degrading, blasphemous false religion of mormonism is not Christianity...
I have never stopped MORMONS from practicing their own religion..
They are free to do so...
I do however state once again for the record...
Mormonism is NOT Christianity...
And if that’s considered “nasty” I’m in good company...
Because I’m just agreeing with the God of the Christian Bible...
King James Version included...
And now put away you books and sharpen you No 2 pencils
“Inmans” here in the RF refers to the “Flying Inmans” (not the muslim imams) - those of us who fight the heresies of Mormonism here. It started out as an insult directed at us by one of the LDS but we took it over and made it ours.
Oh, sorry.
Same thing happened on the Glenn Beck thread where someone said “Beck and his Ilk.” We became the Ilk!
I’m just not there
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Yes I cansee that...
Wel read more of these threads and catch up...
Get up to speed on what mormons believe...
mormonism is not a denomination of Christianity...
mormonism is not Christianity
mormonism is a whole seperate religion from Christianity...
In all the years I have read these threads I have never read a comment where someone has told a mormon they could not practice their own relligion...
The Christians have however objected to the mormons hijacking Chrsitianity...
and bashing the Christians...
Every time one of those 53,000 proslytising mormon missionaries knock on a door, selling the mormon product, Christianity gets bashed...
Maybe one day, but for right now, I’m just trying to keep my girls pure and get through Algebra 1 with my 9th grader.
It’s harder than I thought.
I don’t have a problem with your “articles of faith”
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your savior Joey Smith did...
Dont you sustain him ???
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Algebra ???
Good luck with that ...
I used to teach GED algebra...
Let’s study for the big test...
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The BIG test is when SD (and us) stands before Jesus and He asks if we believed in Him or a church.
The LDS believe there is no true salvation outside Mormonism, (I can source that) and thus place their faith in a church rather than in Christ alone.
We’ve given up on Switched on Schoolhouse 9th grade Algebra, and gone on to Saxon. The girl has now missed as full year and is starting 9th again.
But at least they EXPLAIN it!!!! She and I were totally lost and would have to wait until Daddy arrived home to teach her.
I might have to pick your brain some time in the future...
Clearly his disciples would not be merged into one person
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That is modalism, not Christian doctrine. But I also know that is what the LDS teach that Christians believe.
Algebra is torture.
And when God asks the big question
“What did you do about Jesus ???”
She can never say I didnt know that ...
Let’s go onto the next chapter...
Who Jesus is and which Jesus...
Saundra, when God asks you about Jesus...
dont think you can just hide behind the frilly skirts of the pagan false prophet, Juey Smuth and blame him for your sin of rejecting..
Jesus, who is Eternal..
Jesus who is from everlasting to everlasting..
Jesus the Alpha and Omega..
Jesus, the Lamb of God..
Jesus who is God...
Jesus the Word of God...
Jesus who is the Second person of the Trinity..
Jesus who is the ONLY Begotten Son of the Father...
Jesus who was born of a virgin who never had sex with man
or mormon god...
Jesus who shed His saving Blood UPON THE CROSS to save us...
Jesus who died UPON THE CROSS to save us...
Jesus who rose again the third day to save us...
Jesus who is Lord of Lords and King of Kings...
Jesus whom the false prophety, joey Smith lied about...
Jesus who never lost or moved HIS Church from the Earth
(and why on Earth would He ???)
Jesus the Righteous who has never needed any foul evil Joey Smith to restore HIS Church..
(Anyone saying that JOey Smith so called “restored” the Church that Jesus built is being “insulting, degrading and blasphemous” to jesus)
Jesus whom Joey Smith the liar never met...
Jesus who destroyed Joey Smith..
Jesus who judged Joey Smith as an unbeliever an an enemy of
God and the Church.....
Jesus who condemned the disgraceful unrepentant sinner,
Joey Smith to Hell ...
Jesus who is Savior of the Christians as Joey Smith is the false savior of the mormons...
Jesus who will judge who gets into the Christian Heaven while Joey Smith who claimed falsely it would be him is screaming for help in Hell that he earned...
That Jesus...
Got it now ???
Good...
Tennessee Nana April 16, 2010, 5:35 PM EST
You really have NO grasp on the doctrine of the trinity do you? or what the Bible really states.
Your ‘proof texts’ do not prove LDS doctrine, they just prove how the LDS misunderstand the Bible and Christian doctrine.
Good to know. I am taking an online algebra class (no I have know idea why). I had it in high school and I had it college. I am surprised how much I remember (well and how much I have forgotten, we wont talk about that).
Yep and there is no excuse for SD has been told the truth right here.
Not really. Thyink of it as a foreign language.
I will thank my Heavenly Father for sending His Only-Begotten Beloved Son to suffer and die for me, to take my place. And I will be eternally grateful.
so you are saying the CC is to blame for her ex not letting her get sealed to her current husband?
Wow, just wow.
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