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To: MarkBsnr
The ruins of the Reformation and the rubble of the Restoration are very clear. The Anglican Church is finished and any Christians left are crossing the Tiber or heading East. ELCA is merely determining which toilet they are swirling down. The Presbyterians and the Methodists are merely trailing in the Kentucky Derby of self-immolation of formerly Christian denominations.

Pompous NONSENSE.

... and to be expected... The Roman church is all about compromise... and she will increase as she mounts up to ride the beast.

[roamer_1:] Yes it is - and clearly *not* aligned with the Scriptures.

[...] We wrote 'em [...]

GOD wrote them.

and we selected 'em

Hardly. the selection of the canon was a very organic process. Your seal upon them means nothing.

and we translated 'em and bring them to all of the heretic, apostate and heathen who variously appreciate them or don't.

Bah. The lion's share of the time, the Roman Church fought to keep the Word from being read or owned in the vulgar tongue - and that evidence ABOUNDS.

God went Open Source (as was His intent all along) - you don't have authority over the Word anymore.

Jesus Christ Created the Church and the Holy Spirit commissioned it at Pentecost.

While true, that has little to do with the Roman Church.

Your church was created when? By whom? If I recall correctly, it was during the rubble of the Restoration sometime after the year 1900.

Then you recall incorrectly - I follow Christ... as I ought.

What is particularly foolish is your insistence that your history (built upon fallacy and forgery) has anything to do with truth. It is a specious argument.

[roamer_1:] No sophistry here. Sure it is. The Roman church is swimming in it.

Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any at the moment.

The OP is a perfect example. Bible Christians legitimately question The Roman position on Mary - Rightly so, as it cannot be found within Scripture... Unless one is a Roman Catholic, whereupon one seems to think they have the right to twist the scripture to wring out whatever wee bit of evidence there is - In a fashion which would make a gnostic blush.

Since the evidence is non-existent, RC's fall back on the idea that Bible Christians are ignorant, as this thread, and your own posts, prove.

But that is by no means the end of it... Every claim of superiority is based upon fantasy at best, and forgery and conceit at worst.

172 posted on 04/12/2010 10:27:55 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1
The ruins of the Reformation and the rubble of the Restoration are very clear. The Anglican Church is finished and any Christians left are crossing the Tiber or heading East. ELCA is merely determining which toilet they are swirling down. The Presbyterians and the Methodists are merely trailing in the Kentucky Derby of self-immolation of formerly Christian denominations.

Pompous NONSENSE.

Demonstrably true. Which mainstream Christian denomination, outside of the Missouri Synod Luthers with a following larger than would fit in a hockey arena can even be regarded as Christian anymore? I cannot think of any.

The Roman church is all about compromise

I don't know what a Roman church is, but if you are referring to the Catholic Church, we are under intense attack because we don't compromise.

[...] We wrote 'em [...]

GOD wrote them.

Prove it. Chapter and verse please. Luke 1 and Revelation 1 says that you are wrong. Unless you are referring to the Torah, God did not write nor did He dictate Scripture.

Hardly. the selection of the canon was a very organic process. Your seal upon them means nothing.

Organic? The Church selected it; the history is clear.

Bah. The lion's share of the time, the Roman Church fought to keep the Word from being read or owned in the vulgar tongue - and that evidence ABOUNDS.

What is the Roman Church? The Orthodox to this day normally have their Scriptures in Greek or Church Slavonic. The NT was written entirely in Greek, by the way.

God went Open Source (as was His intent all along) - you don't have authority over the Word anymore.<.I>

Chapter and verse please, for both statements.

Your church was created when? By whom? If I recall correctly, it was during the rubble of the Restoration sometime after the year 1900.

Then you recall incorrectly - I follow Christ... as I ought.

What is particularly foolish is your insistence that your history (built upon fallacy and forgery) has anything to do with truth. It is a specious argument.

Ah, then I am correct. Your church is less than a century old and is the creation of the men of the post Restoration era.

Jesus Christ Created the Church and the Holy Spirit commissioned it at Pentecost.

While true, that has little to do with the Roman Church.

Not sure what the Roman Church is. If you mean the Catholic Church, then the NT deals with its creation and commissioning.

Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any at the moment.

The OP is a perfect example.

Not sure what the OP is.

Bible Christians legitimately question The Roman position on Mary - Rightly so, as it cannot be found within Scripture

Specifically neither is Easter (Pascha), Christmas, or Sunday worship. It is decreed by the organization on Earth that has the authority - the Church, and based upon the often-posted Scriptural references which I can post again if you've lost track of them.

The decision to translate Scripture into Latin was a Church decree; the creation of Church Slavonic and the translation into it was a Church decree, and the effort to keep the translations as accurate as possible slowed the progress in translating to the vernacular throughout the entire world. You must remember that England was a third rate country and sparsely populated. German, French and Spanish translations abounded long before the mass production of English language versions.

Since the evidence is non-existent, RC's fall back on the idea that Bible Christians are ignorant, as this thread, and your own posts, prove.

Hardly a fallback. It merely is direct observation.

Every claim of superiority is based upon fantasy at best, and forgery and conceit at worst.

Then stop claiming superiority and come back to the Church.

173 posted on 04/13/2010 7:46:52 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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