Pompous NONSENSE.
Demonstrably true. Which mainstream Christian denomination, outside of the Missouri Synod Luthers with a following larger than would fit in a hockey arena can even be regarded as Christian anymore? I cannot think of any.
The Roman church is all about compromise
I don't know what a Roman church is, but if you are referring to the Catholic Church, we are under intense attack because we don't compromise.
[...] We wrote 'em [...]
GOD wrote them.
Prove it. Chapter and verse please. Luke 1 and Revelation 1 says that you are wrong. Unless you are referring to the Torah, God did not write nor did He dictate Scripture.
Hardly. the selection of the canon was a very organic process. Your seal upon them means nothing.
Organic? The Church selected it; the history is clear.
Bah. The lion's share of the time, the Roman Church fought to keep the Word from being read or owned in the vulgar tongue - and that evidence ABOUNDS.
What is the Roman Church? The Orthodox to this day normally have their Scriptures in Greek or Church Slavonic. The NT was written entirely in Greek, by the way.
God went Open Source (as was His intent all along) - you don't have authority over the Word anymore.<.I>
Chapter and verse please, for both statements.
Your church was created when? By whom? If I recall correctly, it was during the rubble of the Restoration sometime after the year 1900.
Then you recall incorrectly - I follow Christ... as I ought.
What is particularly foolish is your insistence that your history (built upon fallacy and forgery) has anything to do with truth. It is a specious argument.
Ah, then I am correct. Your church is less than a century old and is the creation of the men of the post Restoration era.
Jesus Christ Created the Church and the Holy Spirit commissioned it at Pentecost.
While true, that has little to do with the Roman Church.
Not sure what the Roman Church is. If you mean the Catholic Church, then the NT deals with its creation and commissioning.
Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any at the moment.
The OP is a perfect example.
Not sure what the OP is.
Bible Christians legitimately question The Roman position on Mary - Rightly so, as it cannot be found within Scripture
Specifically neither is Easter (Pascha), Christmas, or Sunday worship. It is decreed by the organization on Earth that has the authority - the Church, and based upon the often-posted Scriptural references which I can post again if you've lost track of them.
The decision to translate Scripture into Latin was a Church decree; the creation of Church Slavonic and the translation into it was a Church decree, and the effort to keep the translations as accurate as possible slowed the progress in translating to the vernacular throughout the entire world. You must remember that England was a third rate country and sparsely populated. German, French and Spanish translations abounded long before the mass production of English language versions.
Since the evidence is non-existent, RC's fall back on the idea that Bible Christians are ignorant, as this thread, and your own posts, prove.
Hardly a fallback. It merely is direct observation.
Every claim of superiority is based upon fantasy at best, and forgery and conceit at worst.
Then stop claiming superiority and come back to the Church.
Demonstrably true. Which mainstream Christian denomination, outside of the Missouri Synod Luthers with a following larger than would fit in a hockey arena can even be regarded as Christian anymore? I cannot think of any.
Not true at all - and a false premise. The weight of Protestant Christians has long been found in non-aligned Evangelical Churches. Mainstream liberal branches are dying on the vine.
And you leave the false impression that the Roman church is somehow pristine, when by any measure, it is evident that it is not - The great extent of the Northeast is Roman- and is the most liberal and decadent portion of the entire US, not to mention the greater part of Europe, where the Roman Cathedrals are barren and empty.
I don't know what a Roman church is, but if you are referring to the Catholic Church, we are under intense attack because we don't compromise.
As are all of the conservative Protestants... I was taking a much longer view than today - Roman ecumenicism is what I speak of - and it has always compromised in order to get butts in the seats... From the Mithraic wafer god to the adoption of the "godess of heaven"... to modern day chumming up to voodoo in Louisiana and blood sacrifices in their churches in Africa...
Better for the Protestants and Evangelicals, whose wide distribution allows for folks to flee the onset of liberalism, and causes liberal churches to empty out into more conservative branches... whereupon the liberal church dies, and the conservative Church blooms.
Prove it. Chapter and verse please. Luke 1 and Revelation 1 says that you are wrong. Unless you are referring to the Torah, God did not write nor did He dictate Scripture.
Any Book of the Bible which contains prophecy contains the signature of God... It will prove to be utterly inerrant. The manner of it's transmission is irrelevant. If you wish to be catty about the difference between "inspired" and "dictated", do it with someone else.
The Prophecy validates the Word, and the Word validates the Prophecy. If it were to err, I would dismiss it in it's entirety - But it will not fail.
Organic? The Church selected it; the history is clear.
not at all. Most of the Bible, to include the NT, was accepted Scripture as early as 100AD... Long before the Roman church raised her head in service of the dragon.
What is the Roman Church? The Orthodox to this day normally have their Scriptures in Greek or Church Slavonic. The NT was written entirely in Greek, by the way.
So what? It is the Roman church I accused. And there is no doubt at their insistence that no one could translate the Bible into the vulgar tongue. For centuries it was read in Latin to the masses. How can you deny it?
[roamer_1] God went Open Source (as was His intent all along) - you don't have authority over the Word anymore.
[MarkBsnr:] Chapter and verse please, for both statements.
As to the first, the Great Commission comes to mind. As to the second, the Roman church absconded her authority in the first place, so the removal of that authority was well deserved.
[roamer_1:] Then you recall incorrectly - I follow Christ... as I ought.
What is particularly foolish is your insistence that your history (built upon fallacy and forgery) has anything to do with truth. It is a specious argument.
[MarkBsnr:] Ah, then I am correct. Your church is less than a century old and is the creation of the men of the post Restoration era.
Then you are calling me a liar? Do you believe you have some sort of insight beyond what I have declared? There are plenty of posts (surely one to you) that express my exact affiliation. Were all those posts a cover for my secret under-cover affiliation, which you have now exposed?
My point is that historicity has no leverage on truth. If it does, then perhaps you would be more comfortable joining Baal's assembly. It is far older than your own.
And furthermore, Paul said that iniquity entered the church in his day... What proof is there that the Roman Church is not the embodiment of that iniquity? In fact, there is much to prove she is exactly that... The problem with putting all her enemies to the sword for 1200 years is that there are no others surviving to be accused...
Not sure what the Roman Church is. If you mean the Catholic Church, then the NT deals with its creation and commissioning.
No it doesn't - even in it's offices, the Roman church is entirely different that the Ancient Church which Christ commissioned.
The Ancient Church had no pope, no cardinals, no magisterium, no priests... It's bishops were required to be married, had no authority except as the chief of elders... It had no nuns, monks, or orders - In fact orders were specifically taught against. But it did have Apostles and Prophets - two offices gone wanting today...
No, the Church that was formed in the beginning is not the Roman Church.
[MarkBnsr:] Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any at the moment.
The OP is a perfect example.
Not sure what the OP is.
"OP" is an Internet forum acronym for "Original Post".
[roamer_1:] Bible Christians legitimately question The Roman position on Mary - Rightly so, as it cannot be found within Scripture
Specifically neither is Easter (Pascha), Christmas, or Sunday worship. It is decreed by the organization on Earth that has the authority - the Church, and based upon the often-posted Scriptural references which I can post again if you've lost track of them.
Exactly - all pagan additions which no earthly authority had the right to "decree" - Especially the Sabbath, which is the foremost proof against the Roman Church. Traditions of men, one and all.
[...] come back to the Church.
Heh. Fat chance that I will EVER be associated with such a monstrosity. I have no stomach for it's idol worship, goddess worship, and pagan mysticism. And it is impossible for me to "come back" as I have never been affiliated with it in the first place.