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To: Quix
Dr Walter Martin documented his research that convinced him that the JW founders DELIBERATELY CONCOCTED A SHAM OF A RELIGION

TOTALLY AS A MONEY MAKING POWER !!!!CONTROL!!!! SCHEME over other people’s lives.
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I helped D. James Kennedy open his very first 'church' .. way back in the late 60's.
It was an old firehouse station on commercial blvd. in Fort Lauderdale.
Some years later, I was invited to a debate by Dr Kennedy and Dr. Martin.
As close as the two of these gentlemen were as friends .. their beliefs were not always in agreement!
My Point?
I could write a book denouncing just about any religion but .. so what?
Money Making and Power?
IF that were such a bad thing then Dr Kennedy would have never been able to build his "Palace" of a church that sits on some pretty expensive real estate now.
(Federal Hwy and Commercial Blvd)
Money? I'm sure Dr Martin made quite a few dollars in his lifetime.

35 posted on 04/03/2010 11:23:34 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: plinyelder

If your assertion is that Dr Kennedy or Dr Martin deliberately organized their churches to bilk people out of money and to heavy handedly control their lives in a power-freaque tyrannical scheme . . .

then I won’t think much of your awareness of them, at all.


52 posted on 04/04/2010 4:48:42 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: plinyelder
I helped D. James Kennedy open his very first 'church' .. way back in the late 60's....

"Helped?" Did you, really? In what way exactly? Or were you just "there" at the time, perhaps?

IF that were such a bad thing then Dr Kennedy would have never been able to build his "Palace"....

What an odd way for anyone who claims to have known him to refer to Coral Ridge and to Dr. Kennedy in this way.

Dr. Kennedy was a family friend of ours for the better part of 35 years and all the way up to and until the time of his death I never once heard him refer to Coral Ridge as "his Palace."

Some regular "Kingdom Hall" attendee or JW "church" member might see the ranch-style prefab his group meets in as a drywalled "palace" of some sort or other, I suppose.

I'd rather doubt you were ever as personally close to Dr. Kennedy, as it appears that you are trying to represent, else you would know better the nature of both his spirit and his character than to have ever expressed yourself as you have chosen to do here.

Effective ministries will always have their "hangers-on," and maybe even a closet JW or two. And some will post to a forum like this occasionally using pseudonyms like "plinyelder."


57 posted on 04/04/2010 8:49:44 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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To: plinyelder

Dr. Martin died broke and spent more money in ministry than he ever made.

While I was never lucky enough to meet him, I am friends with several of his longtime associates.


78 posted on 04/04/2010 8:24:55 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: plinyelder
My Point?

Yeah...

What IS it?

134 posted on 04/06/2010 10:32:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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