Posted on 03/16/2010 10:47:41 AM PDT by NYer
??? Is it Veronica’s veil or are there two?
This suggests that the "moderately early" Church understood there to have been "grave clothes" in addition to a "head cloth".
And it would make perfect sense that the early christians had an understanding of the burial clothes that they safeguarded for so many centuries. Ii has been a while since I visited the Shroud Story web site and in researching some information today, I came across the following:
But the Earliest Words Might Be 1st Century
In a poem, the Hymn of the Pearl, we find Jesus allegorically saying that in a garment, justifiably a burial garment, that he sees two entire images of himself, one facing outward and one facing inward -- in other words ventral and dorsal images.
And what about the other images on the Shroud! And the pollen! It is such a treasure, preserved throughout 2000 years for us to view and on which to meditate, especially in this holy season of Lent.
There are copies of Veronica’s Veil, but the one believed to be the actual veil is at St. Peter’s Basilica. It is displayed once a year on (I believe on Passion Sunday).
“At present the carbon-dating results do seem to disprove the Shroud’s authenticity...”
Thank you for your comments. I did not address carbon-dating in my previous post, though I am aware of the controversy. There is evidence that the intense heat in a fire may have scewed those results. Russian scientists had a piece of linen from the time of Christ and did carbon dating on it before and after exposing it to the intense heat. My understanding is that the heat changed to make it look younger than it was, similar to dating of the shroud. The fabric itself matches weave etc from the first century.
Again, it is not about artifacts, it is about Him. And yes, we do need to remind ourselves of our own role in the need for His death and resurrection.
Wow!! I saw the Crown of Thorns at Notre Dame on Good Friday, the only day it’s exposed!!!
Also, Veronica’s Veil WAS NOT placed over our Lord when He was placed in the tomb. She wiped His face on the Via Dolorosa.
That would be incredible to see!
I know.....have you been to Israel?? It is UNBELIEVABLE!!
Thanks for the link.
NYer posted links here about the Sudarium which IS in Spain and DID cover the face of Jesus in the tomb:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2472235/posts?page=25#25
It is a totally different relic from Veronica’s Veil.
Where is Veronica's Veil exactly?
OMG!!! How wonderful!! Does the face match the Shroud’s face??
At present the carbon-dating results do seem to disprove the Shrouds authenticity...
http://www.shroudofturin4journalists.com/Shroud-of-Turin-Carbon-14-Dating-Mistake.pdf
If you haven’t seen it, I thought you might find this link iteresting.
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