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NEW YORK TIMES TARGETS THE POPE AGAIN
Catholic League ^ | March 16, 2010 | William Donohue

Posted on 03/16/2010 7:25:56 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the latest attack on the pope by the New York Times:

Once upon a time there was a homosexual priest who was accused of molesting boys in Germany. That was 30 years ago. At the approval of Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger (now the pope), he was sent away for therapy and was later reinstated; years later, under a new archbishop, there was another incident and more therapy.

We know this because the New York Times (which does not like to report on molesting rabbis in 2010), told us about this on Saturday in a front-page article. Today, it ran a front-page article on the same story. Was there any difference? Yes. On Saturday, the Times was only able to identify the priest as bearing the initial "H." Today, it has real news: his name is Hullermann. And now "H" has been suspended.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicleague.org ...


TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bxvi; catholic; nyt; romancatholic; sexualabuse
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To: BenKenobi

I didn’t quote any percentages.


241 posted on 03/16/2010 9:10:41 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: sabe@q.com

Sorry, that was at Mike, not you.

I agree that one case is too many, but if people are going to quote the Vatican it behooves them not to distort what they say.


242 posted on 03/16/2010 9:25:02 PM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: BenKenobi

No worries! Wow! Is this thread still hot?

These guys need to setup a FR PedophileProtectorPing List!

Call it PP Ping for short!

;-)


243 posted on 03/17/2010 3:50:03 AM PDT by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: BenKenobi

5% falls between those figures.

It would have been distorted if I said 6% or 8%

Got your PP List ready yet?


244 posted on 03/17/2010 3:51:57 AM PDT by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

How about dealing with them all, including the enablers. This is not a 30 year old problem. It is current and ongoing. The popes in recent years have not really stepped up and cleaned up their house.


245 posted on 03/17/2010 4:07:14 AM PDT by Phillipian
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To: magisterium

Take your unfairness argument to the victims of this abuse by perverted priests and those who enabled them.


246 posted on 03/17/2010 4:11:48 AM PDT by Phillipian
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To: MikeWUSAF

It’s still distortion.

You want to call me a pedophile protector, fair enough, swing away.

At least I’m not a liar.


247 posted on 03/17/2010 4:18:16 AM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: magisterium; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; wideawake; wmfights; RnMomof7; the_conscience; HarleyD; ...
if incorrect - "professional opinions" of former days, in order to paint a picture of deliberate malfeasance on the part of either the Church or the psychiatric community. (Emphasis mine)

Which being to mind the following:
Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Seems like Rome was more intrested in being conformed to this world.

248 posted on 03/17/2010 4:23:33 AM PDT by Gamecock (We aren't sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. (R.C. Sproul))
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To: Salvation
Priests are way down on the list.

The only list I see here is one unsubstantiated by any facts or even statistics.

What statistics are you using to make claims such as these?

As far as I know, there are no "good" statistical numbers to make a comparison between Protestant and RC clergy on the issue of the sexual abuse of minors. Your links certainly don't show info that would make a comparison possible.

Tell me -- do you think that if a lie is repeated often enough it becomes the truth?

249 posted on 03/17/2010 4:31:02 AM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: BenKenobi
At least I’m not a liar.

Elementary school math proves I'm not a liar. But of course you would prefer the smaller number to minimize the situation.

Sicko...
250 posted on 03/17/2010 4:34:29 AM PDT by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: Gamecock

Sigh.


251 posted on 03/17/2010 5:24:24 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
how about the “internal rot’ in the Lutheran church or the Baptist church...Why don’t you at least be fair and say” the internal rot was widespread in all organized religions”?

Because it isn't true. The other religions are not even CLOSE to the organized behemouth the RC Church is, and the other religions don't preach that if you leave the Lutherans (or whatever), you are condemned to hell.

They know that true salvation lies in grace alone through faith alone, not through membership or rituals.

252 posted on 03/17/2010 7:39:56 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Then you will never solve this problem....stay angry at the church, focus on priests, don’t bother with facts...

The pedophile problem in the RC Church is a symptom, not the real problem with the church.

The only thing worth being angry about is the false religion it is.

253 posted on 03/17/2010 7:42:53 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Poe White Trash
"As far as I know, there are no "good" statistical numbers to make a comparison between Protestant and RC clergy on the issue of the sexual abuse of minors."

Sure there are; sexual malpractice among Protestant clergy is 5x to 10x more prevalent than among Catholic clergy. I've even provided you with the corroborating data and links. You closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting la-la-la-la-la at the top of your lungs won't make it go away. The fact is is that this in NOT just a Catholic problem and your denial of that is contributing to the problem within your Church.

254 posted on 03/17/2010 7:48:04 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: T Minus Four
"The only thing worth being angry about is the false religion it is."

Then stay away from the Church. Why should you care about an organization you are not a member of? Membership and participation is voluntary.

255 posted on 03/17/2010 8:10:52 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

I do stay away, but so many I love are still trapped :-(


256 posted on 03/17/2010 8:13:14 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

Did somebody lock them in? Call the police.


257 posted on 03/17/2010 8:15:47 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

That would be funny...except it’s not funny :=(


258 posted on 03/17/2010 8:16:20 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four
"I do stay away, but so many I love are still trapped :-("

You have condemned the Catholic Church. How and where did you study the Catechism, Canon Law, Epistles, and history of the Church such that you believe that you made a properly informed decision and were not unduly influenced by those possessed by hatred or ignorance?

259 posted on 03/17/2010 8:32:56 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
..were not unduly influenced by those possessed by hatred or ignorance?

I read the bible. I'm of the firm conviction that the authors of the bible were possessed of neither ignorance nor hatred. Especially since God breathed the words into them.

260 posted on 03/17/2010 8:38:54 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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