I have no bone to pick with the Mormons...
Posted on 03/12/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by Colofornian
Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men, Elder Glenn L. Pace of the Seventy told students and faculty during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 9.
Reflecting on the love he felt from his mother, sister, wife and daughters, Elder Pace spoke of the positive influence women have had on his life.
Speaking specifically about a time when his daughter fell asleep in his arms, Elder Pace noted the comfort it must have brought his daughter to be held by her father. He realized afterward that even greater was the peace and comfort she brought to him.
Looking to the Savior as an example, Elder Pace spoke of the love and respect He bestowed upon women.
"As we read about these associations, our focus is generally on what He teaches them and the love and understanding He gives them," Elder Pace said. "Have you ever considered the possibility that these women provided immense comfort to His burdened soul? It is my belief that He needed them as He journeyed toward living a perfect life in order that He could provide the ultimate sacrifice."
Just as the Savior needed righteous women, so do men today in purifying and sanctification in their lives.
Sharing excerpts from the story of the creation found in the book of Abraham, Elder Pace told of how the earth was created — before Eve — where Adam had been placed in the Garden of Eden. In the garden, Adam was enjoying a utopia in physical surroundings as well as open communication with God. Still, it was not complete without Eve.
"I believe the Father's statement 'It is not good that the man should be alone' (Genesis 2:18) had a much more profound meaning than the obvious biological implications," he said. "It also went further than providing Adam with company. Adam's ability to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God was dependent upon his continuous association with Eve."
In order for men and women to obtain the highest degree of celestial glory, there is need to be married, Elder Porter said.
"There is a limit to our spiritual development as long as we are single. There is a spiritual development which can only be obtained when a man and a woman join their incomplete selves into a complete couple," he said. "Just as conception requires the physical union of male and female, perfection requires the union of the very souls of male and female."
Although single men and women can accomplish great things on their own, they are incomplete until united intellectually, emotionally, physically and most important, spiritually, he said.
"The world we live in has gone awry with its focus on the physical part of the male and female relationship. If there is too much focus on the physical, the vital areas of intellectual, emotional and spiritual union are not being placed in an environment where they can flourish and grow."
Elder Pace spoke of the obsession the current society has on "making love," rather than developing a complete relationship that enables "expressing love." Because melding divine natures is a necessary element in bringing about perfection, Elder Pace said, individuals must guard against any deterioration of those natures.
"If the world keeps chipping away at the divine nature of women, it is probable that our relationships in marriage will not bring about the sanctification necessary for exaltation or, at a minimum, the process will be delayed," he said.
Referring to the phrase, "men have the priesthood and women have been given the blessing of procreation," Elder Pace spoke of the importance of each role in a relationship, and the ability couples have to complement one another in their eternal roles.
"It is the marriage ceremony in the temple where husband and wife receive the power to perfect their relationship and, thereby, obtain their exaltation."
As individuals work together to become a whole, as the Lord has commanded, they work together to become a combination of complementary capacities and characteristics.
"Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny."
I have no bone to pick with the Mormons...
awww...and she even has that betterthanyou grin. :)
Yeah, Eddie, DW isn’t one of the inmans.
LOL...
Paypal...
Love it...
We want to point out the inconsistency between Mormonism and Christianity and you think we want to kill you?
Hmmm that post right there tells it all. You’re deluded!
If this is how you do analysis, no wonder you’re no longer in the military.
Dishonorable discharge, eh?
The first part of your first sentence is where you use the "qualifier". After the comma is where you state what you purport to be the effect of Godzilla's ability to analyze. You are stating that his purported inability to properly analyze data is the cause for his no longer being in the military.
The "Dishonorable Discharge, eh?" question stands on its own. You are now applying an assumption that he rec'd said discharge for his purported inability to perform his job when there is no evidence to support your accusation.
You are making an assumption based on your previous comments. Your comments speak for themselves.
Oh brother. Victim card strikes again. Mormons claim to be Christians and therefore their doctrines and history are up to scrutiny just like any other group who wants the privilege.
It isn’t our fault the LDS can’t withstand scrutiny. I took the LDS leaders at face value when they said it should be investigated, so I did, and the LDS church fell hard.
Just because you claim it is lying and misrepresentation does not make it so.
And the Mormons have poisoned MILLIONS of minds against the the Grace of Christ. God will deal with them for that.
Words sure do have meaning. As a student of history, I am too aware that genocides occur because people have been conditioned into viewing others as subhuman or unworthy of existence. Words condition people into justifying terrible evil because their god wills it or the victims deserve their fate because they are outsiders or different.
The constant demonization and misrepresentation of Mormons has already poisoned millions of minds in the US and elsewhere. Just as the propaganda against the Jews resulted in the Holocaust in Europe, “Mormons are a non-Christian cult” is the first step into portraying us as foreigners or outsiders that will lead to another Holocaust if the thin restraint of our civilization disappears.
Why not just get it over and done with and start killing us Mormons just because we believe differently than you? After all, wouldn’t the world be a better place without us “cultists?”
The current propaganda against us will lead in that direction. So-called “Christians” will once again butcher the outsiders in the name of God. I’ve no doubt if the United States suffers a civilizational collapse that areas with large Evangelical and Baptist populations will resort to exterminating Mormons, and other undesirables like Jehovah’s Witnesses, thinking they’re doing God a favor.
The old, “Well, we never told anyone to kill them” is a pathetic excuse since the poison and hatred towards Mormons was planted long ago in their hearts to their everlasting condemnation.
Keep diggin' Ed.
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Can we charge him for wasting OUR time?
It's becoming worth the price of admission with his "genocide" rant....I hope everyone on FR has their settings on "everything" so that they see my red copy ;)
As a student of history...
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If you were one of MY history students and made a ridiculous leap like that, I would have kicked you out of class.
...“Christians" ...Evangelical and Baptist ...will once again butcher ...in the name of God... exterminating Mormons... thinking they’re doing God a favor.
Seriously. *sigh*
Box turtles are totally cool. I had one that went through college with me. Every time it would rain, I’d go gather some fresh worms and everyone on my dorm floor would come watch George crunch through them. He was cool. I eventually let him go to live free.
understatement post of the day.
Whoa, whoa, buddy. Distortion on women?
Mormons do hold women in subjection to men and even other men. For you to assert otherwise is outright conscious ignorance or factually distorting the truth with sins of omission and outright lies.
Just two quick points:
Women may not enter the Priesthood. Why?
Women may not enter into plural marriages here on earth but, may be taken by as many men who desire them in the celestial kingdom. Why?(sounds like they can be passed around like so much chattel and cattle)
Are women inferior in the physical realm and the spiritual realm? Why?
How is that a woman cannot enter the celestial kingdom unless or until her earthly husband calls her secret name?
Mormonism MUST foster the persecution complex. It keeps it’s members from looking into the real history of their group.
Forget using paypal. The IRS is now going to start tracking that. Trouble is in these times us non profits sure do not need those idiots following us around for ebay sales. That is unless they track idiots from Canada.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2466987/posts
Worth a repost...
Mormonism MUST foster the persecution complex. It keeps it’s members from looking into the real history of their group.
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That is exactly what the victim mentality and demonization of ex-members and those who are vocal against LDS hereies seeks to accomplish.
“Mormons are a non-Christian cult”
It’s hard to really say with confidence which mormonism is:
1. Cult
2. Just a condemned heresy retread
3. totally new religion
4. Blend of all partially true ideas of all religions
5. All of the above.
What is clear though, is that it isn’t close to Christian.
False Christ = no salvation = no gospel = condemnation
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