Posted on 03/01/2010 11:55:25 AM PST by NoRedTape
" Historically, only until recently have Mormons wanted to be called Christians, preferring not to be included with Christian denominations which Joseph Smith said were, "all wrong...all there creeds were an abomination in his sight, and that those professors (Christians) were all corrupt." (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith, 2:18-19) In the past Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) have preferred to be called "saints." However, in the recent years the LDS church has spend millions in an intense public relations campaign aimed at moving their church into the mainstream of Christianity.
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First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather a different Jesus. This is why most biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians. Let me explain..............
The god of the Mormons is not the God of the Bible.... "
(Excerpt) Read more at bible-truth.org ...
Wouldn't that mean you are assuming the word ignorant is referring to lds?
you folks rattle off like you more of the the LDS then the LDS you are amuzing any way!
Thank you. I think I am starting to understand the mind set.
Answer my question first, then I will respond to yours.
I don’t know Bear. I have been asking myself that question since I made the decision to abandon mormonism.
I hope you can find your answer, but I think there are as many as there are stars in the sky.
So, as you insult us, are you in your mind is insyulting us ‘ministry’? You’re self-contradictory posts are quite revealing. Can you hear yourself laughing?
I’m happy for me too.
Happy Dance!:)
If it is deliberately misrepresented or twisted and / or presented in a vulgar manner. However, what is the example from scripture. Would Paul's rant against Judizers - 'go ahead and castrate themselves' be hate speech? Jesus also used sharp words too.
IMHO, I cannot judge the state of salvation of anyone. But as shown in scripture I can present the gospel and defend its tenants against heresy as well as, like Paul, challenge the beliefs and doctrines of non-christian religions.
In this thread - the case of mormon claims to Christianity - the challenging of those claims are scripturally sound. Is this the same "Jesus"? The late prophet Hinkley is on record stating that the Jesus of momonism is not the Jesus of Christianity. This requires exposure and judging just what mormons mean by "Jesus" beyond the milk generally presented in reply.
No it is turning MHGinTN own word it is you who is assuming
miss sarcastic!
Did you ever see the show “Perfect strangers”?
“And now we do the dance of joy” (hava nagila plays)
You UNDERSTOOD that?
And of course, you err in your assertion.
In Luke 23:43, Jesus told the thief on the cross: “Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
Certain Christians mistakenly interpret “paradise” to mean heaven. It doesn’t.
In John 20:17, the Savior, after his resurrection, states to Mary: “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”
If paradise were heaven where Christ told the thief he would be with Him, Christ wouldn’t have told Mary three days after his crucifixion outside the tomb that he had yet to ascend to his Father.
After Christ’s crucifixion and before his resurrection, he was in the spirit world teaching his Gospel. This is made plain in 1 Peter 3:18,19 where Peter teaches:
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
you don’t and I did answer you you just got it all wrong and I correct you!
Again, there are so many reasons that mormons are not Christian; it's all been published. Use Google. I'm tired. Thanks.
scary isn’t it
Rusty we have gone over this before I am snarky not sarcastic. ;-)
I'm a catholic, the worst kind - a convert.
And this is what I say to you:
Right Doctrine does not bring us to the joys God reserves for us.
Good theology or ecclesiology does not bring us to the joys God reserves for us.
Jesus brings us to the joys God reserves for us. By His grace, I trust in Him. By His grace you trust in Him. I will pray — yeah, probably in Latin and Mary will be involved — that your trust in Him and my trust in Him will be ever deepened until it it a deep river overflowing its banks and flooding everything with life.
His love brings hope and faith and love. I trust in Him. and, though we could probably argue for ten years about doctrine, which is not unimportant, I thank Him that you also truth in Him.
no you did not.
Have you had your calling and election made sure? If you die are you sure you will qualify for the Celestial Kingdom?
That sounds awfully Calvinistic (& cruel).
Think of all the "window dressing" of humanity over the ages. A tiny tribe in the Fertile Crescent gets salvation while billions born across the continents over the history of humanity eternal damnation. Absurd and unchristian, what kind of God sets up a sick system like that?
Yet the LDS solve that one through their temple work for the dead.
That is fantastic and innovative theology, plus it has Biblical precedent. It gives one hope and a foundation to look at the rest of humanity across time without limit.
That's real hope.
reaganaut: Like? SZonian: Which parts would you be alluding to?
One is the physical body of God. He's anthropomorphic throughout the OT. One thing never searched for by Crusaders, at least they never wrote of it, is the Body of Jesus.
He ascends to his Father, bodily. Both are interesting, no? He goes somewhere "up" a real place and doesn't leave his body behind.
We expect a Resurrection into bodies that will be heavenly. Why give us back our bodies if the spirit is the highest form?
It seems that Hellenized Judaism has altered Christian thinking, at least on the plain facts of the Bible. I don't see why God cannot have a body. The Bible implies he does and in some places states as much.
Not all ignorant people are LDS, Resty.
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