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Yes, Rogers, it's plain and simple that it takes faith to be right with God. But what is not included is all your question begging about a natural human power called faith. You just add that to Scripture but Scripture itself, where we have shown you innumerable times, rejects such human power. But you never actually address those Scriptures you just resort to the same question begging time and again.

And speaking of Rome, if it weren't for these Reformers who all believed in sovereign grace you would still be kissing the Pope's ring and bowing to statues of Mary.

And speaking of Rome, if it weren't for these Reformers who all believed in sovereign grace you would still be kissing the Pope's ring and bowing to statues of Mary.

Amen !!!

Those that led the reformation and that gave their lives for the gospel were Reformed believers...

, it's plain and simple that it takes faith to be right with God. But what is not included is all your question begging about a natural human power called faith. You just add that to Scripture but Scripture itself, where we have shown you innumerable times, rejects such human power. But you never actually address those Scriptures you just resort to the same question begging time and again.

AMEN!

And speaking of Rome, if it weren't for these Reformers who all believed in sovereign grace you would still be kissing the Pope's ring and bowing to statues of Mary.

It takes a little study to understand that, but, God willing, it will be revealed.

We cannot have faith apart from God's revelation, but we CAN respond to him with faith. Indeed, we are commanded to do so, and rebuked when we do not.

Mat 21:32 "For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him. And even when you saw it, you did not afterward change your minds and believe him.

Mar 16:14 Afterward he appeared to the eleven themselves as they were reclining at table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen.

Luk 24:25 And he said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!

Jhn 20:8 Then the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed;

Jhn 20:29 Jesus said to him, "Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Jhn 20:31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Act 11:21 And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number who believed turned to the Lord.

1Cr 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe.

2Ti 3:15 and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

Belief is in response to God's revelation, but it is not a gift given after salvation. In each of the above verses, believing is something WE do in response to an input, or not.

Why would God rebuke you for not having what he alone can give?

"And speaking of Rome, if it weren't for these Reformers who all believed in sovereign grace you would still be kissing the Pope's ring and bowing to statues of Mary."

Oh yes. I've spent a lot of time bowing to statues of Mary - NOT! And you accuse ME of infantile reasoning?

Speaking of Tyndale: