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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Nosterrex
"If God wanted all men to be saved, all men would be saved. / That one sentence revealed the truth of double predestination to me. It appears overwhelming."

3This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. 7 For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle ( I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. - 1 Tim 2

30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent... - Acts 17

Calvin, or God? Calvin, or God? Choices, choices!

61 posted on 02/28/2010 2:42:16 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers; the_conscience; RnMomof7
We've been over this before. It hasn't changed. Context, Rogers. Context.

1 TIMOTHY 2:4

"All" in 1Ti 2:4, cannot be taken for every man individually, since it is not the will of God that all men in this large sense should be saved: for it is His will that some men should be damned, and that very justly, for their sins and transgressions.

Unto some men it will be said, "Depart, ye cursed, into everlasting fire." If God willeth all men to be saved, then all men will be saved, for "He (God) doeth according to His will in the army of Heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth" (Dan 4:35). God faileth not, He cannot be disappointed in His own will, for He worketh all things after the counsel of it. Again, in Heb 2:9, Jesus is said to "taste death for every [man];" it is in the very next verse restricted to "sons brought to glory," and in Heb 2:11, to "sanctified" ones. 1Ti 2:6 ("who gave Himself a ransom for all") is rendered in the parallel text in Tit 2:14, "who gave Himself for us."

Now, who are the persons called "us" in this text? Are they not particularized as "redeemed from all iniquity, purified and made a peculiar people?" For "all" of this description Christ gave Himself a ransom, and for none else.

The prophet David saith, "All men are liars;" take the word strictly, and he must be a liar that saith so...


65 posted on 02/28/2010 3:02:53 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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