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To: Mr Rogers; the_conscience; RnMomof7
We've been over this before. It hasn't changed. Context, Rogers. Context.

1 TIMOTHY 2:4

"All" in 1Ti 2:4, cannot be taken for every man individually, since it is not the will of God that all men in this large sense should be saved: for it is His will that some men should be damned, and that very justly, for their sins and transgressions.

Unto some men it will be said, "Depart, ye cursed, into everlasting fire." If God willeth all men to be saved, then all men will be saved, for "He (God) doeth according to His will in the army of Heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth" (Dan 4:35). God faileth not, He cannot be disappointed in His own will, for He worketh all things after the counsel of it. Again, in Heb 2:9, Jesus is said to "taste death for every [man];" it is in the very next verse restricted to "sons brought to glory," and in Heb 2:11, to "sanctified" ones. 1Ti 2:6 ("who gave Himself a ransom for all") is rendered in the parallel text in Tit 2:14, "who gave Himself for us."

Now, who are the persons called "us" in this text? Are they not particularized as "redeemed from all iniquity, purified and made a peculiar people?" For "all" of this description Christ gave Himself a ransom, and for none else.

The prophet David saith, "All men are liars;" take the word strictly, and he must be a liar that saith so...


65 posted on 02/28/2010 3:02:53 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“”All” in 1Ti 2:4, cannot be taken for every man individually, since it is not the will of God that all men in this large sense should be saved...”

Nothing like assuming one’s argument to prove it!

It IS God’s desire that all men repent and turn to Him, for he loves all and Jesus came because God so loved the world.

It is ALSO God’s will that those he saves come to follow him as sons, not servants - that they CHOOSE to believe, rather than believe by compulsion. We are chosen for adoption thru faith, not chosen to have faith.


67 posted on 02/28/2010 3:12:37 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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