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To: roamer_1; Cronos
Yet my Messianic Jewish friends KNOW who Yahweh is. They KNOW my Lord Yeshua. and they KNOW Ruach HaKodesh. They KNOW both Covenants, and understand them (probably better than any other). And they preach the Gospel of the Risen Christ. They hold *no* writings to be more important, or anywhere near equal to the Holy Oracles of Almighty God.

Yet some would build a rift and a wall against them because of a technicality that cannot be proven? They are not "Christian" because they are not "Trinitarian" according to the TRADITION of men?

Please. What hubris. What unmitigated gall. It is not ours to sanction. That is the Spirit's job.

I sense in UriÂ’el that he follows The Way. Rather than denigrating him for that, one should learn instead.

Isaiah defines the two witnesses of the Lord - Judah, who is deaf, and Ephraim who cannot see.

Before the end, Christ WILL hold Ephraim and Judah in His hand, as ONE STICK. I will readily predict that stick will not look like Judaism, nor like present day Christianity, regardless of the confession.

Amen.

The biggest trap the trinity causes is as some of the more "learned" Romanists have
expressed; they reject or ignore the god of the first covenant as mean and nasty.

They prefer the Jesus that they have constructed with their traditions of man.

Do not confuse Judaism with Rabbinism which seeks to replace the written Torah with the so-called "Oral Torah" which is their "Holy Tradition". I'm sure that sounds familiar.

As a study model of Judaism without the tradition of man look to Karaite Judaism .

One day soon i'll have to do a detailed study of how there is only ONE YHvH
and how it can be understood with the artificial construct of the "trinity"

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
1,085 posted on 02/26/2010 7:16:00 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; roamer_1; Cvengr; xone
The biggest trap the trinity causes is as some of the more "learned" Romanists have expressed; they reject or ignore the god of the first covenant as mean and nasty.

Ok:
1. This concept of the Trinity is not limited to Romanists, but is held by Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists etc. Essentially the vast bulk of Christians believe in that idea of the Trinity that you attack
2. None of this vast bulk of Christians "reject or ignore the God of the first covenant as mean and nasty" -- that would be Marcionism or worse, Gnosticism.
3. One day soon i'll have to do a detailed study of how there is only ONE YHvH and how it can be understood with the artificial construct of the "trinity" and of course, you believe that the rest of us Anglicans, Baptists, REformed, Mennonites, Lutherans, Catholics, Methodists, Orthodox, Copts, Armenians, Assyrians etc. are wrong since we have this artificial construct of the "trinity", correct?
1,094 posted on 02/26/2010 7:34:31 AM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

WELL and fittingly put, I think.


1,142 posted on 02/26/2010 8:24:27 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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