Posted on 02/24/2010 9:36:26 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
There is the 'Lutheran' problem.
Your definition is wrong, as you know quite well. Any number of FR posters disagree with Catholics, without being bigots. FR is in no danger of becoming a "Romanist tea party." But some people think FR is an anti-Cathoic hate site.
It's no mystery why some are turned off FR as an anti-Catholic hate site: it's the small number of anti-Catholic bigots who cannot seem to let an open thread go by without screaming about Catholics.
Why would you ask that? Why don't you as the RM directly? Why don't you ask Jim Robinson?
“we have the scripture on our side :)”
That’s why there is so much kicking against the goad. 8?P
Why are you going to accuse the RM of being a "far, far left Bernie Sanders liberal"? I only ask because you've done that to me and I'm not a priest so I can only imagine what you would call an actual priest.
Someone posted a photo of the RM recently. She’s no priest!
LOL!
You claim I'm anti-catholic and ping me. Since the beginning of the RF, Y'all never debate the Word of G-d, Oh also whine and cry. It seems I preach the Holy Word of G-d.
first the Romanist then the Mormons
have tried to control and dominate
by claiming all sorts of abuse.
just spin and alinsky.
“Your definition is wrong, as you know quite well.”
No, I think it’s quite accurate. The Romanists here will tolerate a non-Romanist if they whisper sweet nothings in their ear but not those who actually challenge them on their false gospel.
What a joke! Put the number of any "whine and cry" post here. Or any "spin and alinsky" whatever that is. Catholics see bigotry for what it is. If that bothers you, then maybe you should change your ways.
Not even close.
Anti-Catholic bigotry has nothing to do with Romanism.
It's about hatred of the Catholic Church, not Romanism.
Despite any such alleged ability, they turned away from Scripture and the Gospel and manufactured countless traditions of men.
Nobody is a "Romanist." If you are referring to Catholics, we do tend to like the ones who don't call names, or lie.
Thank you for establishing definitively that the award is neither named for any pope nor awarded by the Catholic Church.
You are free to continue your Chicago Alinskyite spin.
*lolz*
The office and purpose was, so far as I can tell, tied to the proclamation of the Gospel. I'm not convinced there was a divine fiat that called for a line of demarcation between the office of presbyter and bishop, but it does seem to me that the apostles were extending the authority they'd received from Christ to the overseers, and the people given a charge over those overseers (like Timothy).
You may be correct that there is no direct command, but through the example of Timothy and the laying on of hands for deacons in Acts 6, we find a pattern that is alluded to in early extra-biblical writings. I've mentioned the example of Ignatius of Antioch. He writes very early and he just assumes the pattern of a three-office succession. So, while I don't necessarily disagree that there is no specific command to pass the torch from the apostles, I do believe there is an early Scriptural episcopal pattern that is validated by the way the church functioned by no later than A.D. 67; the year that Ignatius was appointed bishop by Peter (Theodoret, Dial. Immutab., I, iv, 33a).
They were "dark" because the bishop of Rome was usurping the power and position of the Holy Spirit.
And yet God chose to use this vessel as the means by which to spread the Gospel message for some 1500+ years. Here's the thing...I do believe Protestants (myself included) to have all the gifts of the Holy Spirit. What I do not understand is why so many Protestants assume that Catholics have a distorted view of the papacy. Loyalty to the bishop was simply a given by the close of the first century at the latest. I cannot see why we would condemn them for maintaining that particular teaching, even as we may disagree with some of their doctrinal conclusions.
What a joke! Put the number of any "whine and cry" post here. Or any "spin and alinsky" whatever that is. Catholics see bigotry for what it is. If that bothers you, then maybe you should change your ways.
May you come to know YHvH, the creator of the universe. Seek His face in His Word. Your post is a stellar example.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Thank God you're not describing Catholics.
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