Posted on 02/20/2010 12:50:19 PM PST by reaganaut
Apologetics Press :: Reason & Revelation December 2003 - 23[12]:105-109
Are There Lost Books of the Bible? by A.P. Staff
Q.
I have heard that there are certain lost books mentioned in the Biblebooks to which we no longer have access. Is this true? And if so, what impact does this have on the biblical text itself, or on a Christians faith?
A.
In a manner that is somewhat similar to a modern research paper, citations appear in both the Old and New Testaments. The inspired writers sometimes referred to certain works that no longer exista fact that has caused some people to question the accuracy and completeness of the Bible. Atheists and skeptics claim that if it was truly Gods Word, then it would not lack any composition cited. Massimo Franceschini, an Italian convert to Mormonism, has suggested that the biblical text is more than sixty-five percent incomplete, due, in part, to the lost books cited within the Bible itself (Franceschini, 2002). If the Bible is, at most, thirty-five percent complete, then the Christian faith can be no more complete than that. Duane Christensen, in the October 1998 issue of Bible Review, listed twenty-three referenced books that have been lost in antiquity (14[5]:29), to which we can add seven additional works mentioned in the Bible. Such compositions as the Book of Jashar (Joshua 10:13; 2 Samuel 1:18), the Acts of Gad the Seer (1 Chronicles 29:29), and Pauls previous Corinthian letter (see 1 Corinthians 5:9) are among the thirty cited workstwenty-eight from the Old Testament era, and two from the New Testament erathat are not included in the canon of Scripture, and that are missing from secular history. The contents of these books are known only by the fact that they are cited or quoted. Upon further examination, however, it appears that some of them actually may exist in another form.
Some scholars argue that a large number of these citations probably refer to the same composition. For example, the references found in 1 and 2 Kings to the Chronicles of the Kings of Judah, the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel, and the Acts of Solomon, possibly denote a single work (Christensen, 14[5]:29). It is a common practice, even in modern society, to refer to one thing by several different names. For example, a person may refer to Josephus work, Wars of the Jews, as Josephus, Josephus Wars, Jewish Wars, Wars of the Jews, Josephus Jewish Wars, etc.all of which designate the same composition. In similar fashion, the many works cited throughout Kings and Chronicles very possibly refer to different sections of a single work. If there was a single original (one referred to by several names), it was likely a highly detailed record of the reigns of the kings in Israel and Judah. As a king lived and died, the records of his reign were added to this work by a scribe, prophet, historian, record keeper, or even by the administration of the next king, making it a composite work of many writers. The various names for this single account might have designated certain sections that made up the composite work. The differences between Kings and Chronicles naming and citing of the sections of the original, can be understood by the differences that exist among modern citation styles. The style of citation, list of works cited, and information provided vary widely, for example, among such modern-day guides as the MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Papers, the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association, The Chicago Manual of Style, and Kate Turabians A Manual for Writers of Term Papers, Theses, and Dissertations. Nevertheless, each one of these provides sufficient information to refer the reader to the original source. Similarly, the writer of Kings style of citation, and the writer of Chronicles style of citation, both mentioned the original, but did so in a different manner. Nevertheless, both provided the reader with enough information to locate the section referenced in the source.
The idea of a composite source makes sense when applied to Jewish oral tradition. The Talmuda collection of Hebrew oral law and legal decisions (the Mishna), along with transcribed scholarly discussions and commentary on the Mishna (the Gemara)holds that Jeremiah wrote Kings, and that Ezra wrote Chronicles (Rodkinson, 1918, V:45). [NOTE: There is no internal evidence for Jeremiahs authorship of Kings, but 2 Chronicles 36:22-23 and Ezra 1:1-4 are almost identical, which supports Talmudic tradition of Ezras authorship of Chronicles.] One theory regarding the citation of lost books is that they were source material for the writers of Kings and Chronicles. Jeremiah possibly edited and/or condensed the original source (by inspiration of the Holy Spirit) into the book of Kings, sometime before or during the Babylonian exile. This new, inspired book of Kings provided a summary of the histories of Israel and Judah for the captives to carry with thema much smaller, lighter book than the original detailed work. After returning from the Babylonian exile, Ezra composed another history of the Hebrew nationChronicles. According to this theory, he used the same original work as Jeremiah for his primary source, but referred to the sections by different names than the ones used by Jeremiah. To this, he added parts of Samuel, Isaiah, possibly Lamentations, and some non-extant works. Like Jeremiahs compilation, Ezra did this by inspiration. While the original source no longer exists, a condensed form of it survived through the inspired writings.
However, it also is possible that the original work to which Jeremiah and Ezra referred was not a source for their books, but was an uninspired composition of historical significance to which the reader could look for additional information. Under this theory, Jeremiah and Ezra received everything for the composition of their respective works, but also were inspired to include a reference for extra information. God did not require every single detail to be preserved in the biblical accounts of the history of the Jewish people, so He revealed what the authors of Kings and Chronicles needed to know, while guiding them to insert a for more information, please see... in the text.
Both of these theories allow for verbal inspiration. The first theory suggests that God inspired Jeremiah and Ezra to look at the single historical work as a source, and then He guided them (via the Holy Spirit) to include exactly what He wanted from that source into Scripture. According to the second theory, God revealed to Jeremiah and Ezra the necessary history, and then guided them to place a citation in the biblical text in order to refer the contemporary reader to a then-extant historical book. Some of the lost books are references to sections of this source, and others are different names for books that are not lost, but currently reside within the canon of Scripture.
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To summarize, eight of the missing Old Testament books probably are referring to Samuel, Isaiah, Chronicles, the Pentateuch, and Lamentations. Eight others appear to refer to sections of a single source used by the inspired Old Testament writers, making it only one lost historical record. Six others were written by prophets and seers, and might have been sections in a non-extant prophetic work known as the Book of the Seers. Two more were commentaries, which also could have been a single work, and two more were books of hymns or poetry. Therefore, the original number of Old Testament-era lost books, twenty-eight, actually numbers only a half-dozen. However, along with the missing books of the Old Testament era, there are two epistles referred to in the New Testament that some consider lost books.
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Do We Really Need These Books?
When mentioning the lost books of the Bible, many people wonder, Why do we no longer have these books?, and Do we really need them? First, some of the so-called lost books probably are references to inspired books that still exist, but by another name. Others were historical references used as sources for inspired books, such as Kings and Chronicles, and so the Jews saw no need to treat them with special reverence, nor to strive to preserve them. Some were books of poetry or song that were uninspired, but served as a record of Hebrew culture. Others were non-Hebrew sources, making them non-biblical compositions and therefore not canonical writings. Many of these lost books probably are references to sections of the same work, making the actual number of non-extant books cited in the Bible less than a dozen. However, we must face the fact that some compositions cited by the Old and New Testament writers no longer exist.
While under subjugation to the Babylonian, Persian, Greek, and Roman empires, the Jews ultimately were able to preserve only those books that were holy and inspiredeverything else was destroyed or lost. While this is unfortunate, it should not affect our faith adversely. The books we have are inspired, and came from inspired men who sometimes mentioned non-inspired sources for recording historical fact, giving places to find additional information, or simply to make a point. These men, like modern researchers, felt compelled to cite their sources, but did not intend these sources to become writings on a par with Scripture. The missing books that are cited in the Old Testament apparently did not bother the Jews, who recorded in the first century A.D. that their writings consisted of only twenty-two to twenty-four works that correspond exactly to our thirty-nine, except for a difference in order and division (Josephus, 1987, Against Apion, 1:38-40; Bruce, 1988, pp. 28-34; Rodkinson, 1918, V:44-45). Obviously, the lost books did not present a problem to Jesus and the apostles, who accepted the Hebrew Bible (our Old Testament) as all they needed. They quoted from none of these books, and the only things they quoted as Scripture were the books of the Old Testament. To accept that God allowed the inspired writers to employ sources in composing historical books of the Bible does not negate inspiration by the Holy Spirit. If these men used sources, God still guided them by the Holy Spirit to correct, compile, and add to the uninspired source material. One of the gospel writers (Luke) apparently consulted various sources in compiling his letter (Luke 1:1-4). As was previously mentioned, Paul quoted Epimenides and Aratus in Acts 17, and quoted Epimenides again in Titus 1:12. It was not uncommon for the authors of the Bible to use or quote, by inspiration, either uninspired works or inspired works that no longer exist.
God obviously did not intend certain works to be preserved, because His hand would have guided their perpetuation, just as He guided the continuation of the canonical books. Like the lost Corinthian letter, it is likely that other inspired books were written that God intended for a particular historical setting, but did not intend to be preserved in the canon of the Bible. God has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him (2 Peter 1:3), and our knowledge of Him is complete through the revealed Word. None of the books God intended to be in the Bible is lost, and the phrase lost books refers only to those books of which no record exists. Whatever these lost books contained is irrelevant, because we have the Word of God exactly as He wanted us to have itnothing more, and certainly nothing less.
REFERENCES
Bruce, F.F. (1977), The Defense of the Gospel in the New Testament (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans).
Bruce, F.F. (1988), The Canon of Scripture (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press).
Christensen, Duane (1998), Lost Books of the Bible, Bible Review, 14[5]:24-31, October.
Franceschini, Massimo (2002), Lost Books, [On-line], URL: http://www.bibleman.net/Lost_Books.htm.
Josephus, Flavius (1987), The Works of Josephus, trans. William Whiston (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson).
McClintock, John and James Strong (1968 reprint), Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker).
Metzger, Bruce M. (2000), A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament (Stuttgart, Germany: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft), second edition.
Rodkinson, Michael L. (1918), New Edition of the Babylonian Talmud (Boston, MA: The Talmud Society), [On-line Version], URL: http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm, ed. J.B. Hare.
more boloney from the world!
You are very funny!:)
Retsy, it is NOT baloney. I know several professional Egyptologists and Archaeologists and have trained under most of them. The fact remains that NO Egyptologist recognize the Book of Abraham as authentic, NONE!!
And one of those pages listed actually goes through the common LDS excuses for the BoA. God gave us brains in order to use them.
The BoA is a PROVEN fraud.
Resty, the reason I took hieroglyphs at UCLA was in order to PROVE the Book of Abraham true. What I discovered was there was ABSOLUTELY NO WAY the papyrus and facsimiles matched what Joseph claimed they said. It just doesn’t work.
Please explain what information is missing from that time.
There is a 400 BC gap before the comings of the Lord dont you ever wonder what was going on during those 400 years?
Then you replied ...
Please explain what information is missing from that time.
Well, anyone knows that there is missing historical information in that 400 year gap. But, in terms of the inerrant, infallible, and authoritative Scriptures that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob gave us in the 66 books by the 40 authors that he chose to write them -- it doesn't make a bit of difference in that authoritative word... :-)
And definitely, that's much better than the fake historical information that exists in the Mormon (so-called) authoritative information as to anything that happened on this continent... LOL ...
Forgot you... :-)
Welcome to FR.....
Good catch. Another noob disparaging the Bible. Must be our year. ;)
It’s gotten so bad lately on FR, that I’ve found myself checking the sign up date of any screen name I don’t recognize which makes trollish comments.
The VK’s have been pretty busy lately, you know....
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This thread isn’t about the apocrypha it is about never canonized books like the Book of Mormon and:
Book of the Wars of the Lord
Book of Jasher
Book of the acts of Solomon
Book of Samuel the seer
Book of Gad the seer
Book of Nathan the prophet
Prophecy of Ahijah
Visions of Iddo the Seer
Book of Shemaiah
Epistle to the Laodiceans
Prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude
“Anyone knows”? That’s an answer?
Anyone knows? Thats an answer?
Yes, that's an answer -- unless you're making some sort of contention that the world went into hibernation for those 400 years and nothing happened. LOL [you know... like a "Twilight Zone" episode] ...
It was his New Year’s Resolution... doncha know... :-)
I’m on the VK ping list, you are right they have been busy.
That makes no sense. My God is all powerful and could preserve his word.
BTW, the LDS haven’t found any of these other so called Lost Books and translated them. JS just came up with ones that are never mentioned. Interesting.
I’d sooner believe that God could preserve His Word supernaturally than depend on some *burning in my bosom* for revealed truth.
It doesn’t seem consistent to criticize the first and hold to the second.
You should be addressing some other poster.
I am unaware of any “gap” in the historical records, but you and others apparently are aware of some “gap”. I’m just curious as to what information is missing.
ttt
you are right it is not consistent. But the LDS hold to a weak view of Scripture and a weak view of God.
Remember the quote on one of these threads last week where one of the LDS leaders said Jesus was a ‘victim’? Comments like that say a lot about how they view God and Christ.
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