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1 posted on 02/13/2010 1:13:42 PM PST by Graybeard58
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Or on the other hand, when you have a rich president in office why should his step-brother live in a shack?


2 posted on 02/13/2010 1:22:04 PM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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There are large churches that are meeting the needs of the world in Christian love, and there are small churches that are only meeting the needs of their congregants. This author paints with a broad brush.


3 posted on 02/13/2010 1:25:07 PM PST by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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Is a giant cross frivolous? Yes. But we live in a country where people expect their handouts. They want your food and money and don’t want to hear about Jesus or the reason why you are feeding them or paying their power bill.

Studies show that the 18-34 demographic expect glitzy presentations when they do attend church. They want comfortable seats, professional and free day care, air conditioning, TV screens and professional PowerPoints. They want a full rock band with a good sound system. They don’t want a humble little church with a good message. It’s sad, but its a fact of life.

So, if a mega-church wants to build a $50M “campus” and it attracts followers who come to know Christ, then good! If it takes a giant cross to make someone in our commercialized culture ponder the fate of his or her soul, then that’s a good thing. Perhaps they can attract these new followers and one day they will mature and decide that the message is more important than the presentation, and they’ll migrate to the humble little church. We’ll still be there waiting for them.


4 posted on 02/13/2010 1:31:28 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Imagine a day when the politicians have to hold a bake sale to pay for votes!)
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I'm not trying to sound like Judas commenting on the woman with the bottle of perfume, but wouldn't that money be better spent getting poor kids out of public school? The fruit they would bear would be far greater than some fixed object. It is not the cross in and of itself, but people who love Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit, that lead people to that cross.

I'm not trying to paint with that broad brush--maybe they are doing it already. Even so, it this the wisest use of God's resources?

6 posted on 02/13/2010 1:34:33 PM PST by Longhair_and_Leather (Don't send a boy to do a man's job, send a woman--Sarah 2012!)
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There is a logical fallacy here. Building a large cross is not going to stop persecution or people from living in mud huts. This is the same line of thinking that goes, eat all your vegetables because people are starving in China. The other fallacy is that building a large cross is going to produce Christians. It has value to the people building it in that it makes them feel good, but other than that there is no effect from the cause. If looking at a cross converted people to Christianity, almost everyone would be a Christian.


7 posted on 02/13/2010 1:34:48 PM PST by Nosterrex
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$230,000 is not a lot of money when it comes to construction. It’s not like their adding another wing to the Vatican, here. It’s the cost of a modest tract home.


9 posted on 02/13/2010 1:47:44 PM PST by Haiku Guy (Tanking Poll Numbers / From now on will be known as / Approval Poll Change)
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***Illinois has its own — “world's largest cross” — a nearly 200-foot stunner that emerges along I-57 in Effingham and glows surreally at night.***

Texas has a large one on I-40 just outside Amarillo close to the Cadillac Ranch sculpture.

11 posted on 02/13/2010 3:07:31 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GP-35 Grande Puissance-1935 and S&W .44)
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Illinois has its own -- "world's largest cross" -- a nearly 200-foot stunner that emerges along I-57 in Effingham and glows surreally at night. The first time I saw it, it scared the hell out of me. It also made me reflect on my faith, at least until it disappeared from sight as I continued my journey.

Right there is worth the price of admission.

The author clearly has not been saved, and offers a pathetic excuse for his miserable life.

He covets all material objects that Christians may have, but is not going to take efforts such as giving, helping, praying, and opening his heart to Jesus that would bring him riches that he obviously doesn't know exist.

Hopefully someone will invite him to that church he fears so much.

Maybe he'll notice that he's the only one there overcome by fear.

Maybe he'll be so bugged by it that he asks someone about it.

Maybe if we all pray that the little buzzard thinks of nothing else from now on, he'll take that 1st step.

12 posted on 02/13/2010 3:17:28 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Joseph, get my cape, scepter and teleprompters, it's time to visit the peasants.)
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“How dare you not eat your lutefisk, chard, Limburger and liver casserole, when there are children in Lower Slobbovia with nothing to eat but gravel?”

“How about you package it up for them, parcel post. I doubt it will get any worse if sent by unrefrigerated cargo ship.”

Seriously, only a liberal idiot says that Americans should never have pleasure, because somewhere, someone else is miserable.


13 posted on 02/13/2010 3:45:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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14 posted on 02/13/2010 3:55:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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