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To: Cvengr
"(5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"

Just a question....when Jesus was here on earth, do you believe he was just a mere man, a servant like the rest...or man and God at the same time?

8,082 posted on 02/02/2010 6:31:50 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

Man and God, though the Son of God, not the Father or Holy Spirit, though one with both the other persons of the Godhead.


8,083 posted on 02/02/2010 6:39:46 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I’ve also found the doctrines of the Hypostatic Union and Kenosis to help in that understanding.


8,084 posted on 02/02/2010 6:41:59 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: NoGrayZone

BTW, it’s helpful to review the actual Greek used in the term “knowledge” in the 2ndTim passage. It is EPIGNOSIS, not GNOSIS. EPIGNOSIS is an ‘outward knowledge’, also associated with the product from the heart, vice only the mind as a compartment in the soul.

Many of the doctrines I’ve reviewed indicate EPIGNOSIS is formed from GNOSIS by a work of God the Holy Spirit in us as we take on the mind of Christ.

Some assert such EPIGNOSIS only comes through the work of faith performed by God the Holy Spirit in the believer remaining in fellowship with Him, or walking by Him, or abiding in Him, while continuing with the mind of Christ.

The output chamber of the soul, our heart, is hardened when we fall out of fellowship, and when we are tested, our response or reaction is indicative of how He has formed the EPIGNOSIS in us.

I’ve been going back through Colosians recently and it also provides some outstanding reference to EPIGNOSIS, sometimes also translated as “the acknowlegement” of the mystery of God, as well as “knowledge”.

Col 2:2
(2) That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement(EPIGNOSIS) of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

Col 1:9
(9) For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge(EPIGNOSIS) of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;


8,085 posted on 02/02/2010 6:55:08 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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