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To: Cronos; Mad Dawg

Context left out.

MoG.. denotes an ontological oneness with that which she is the mother of, but to which aspect she contributed nothing.

But that i mean she did not biologically contribute to who Jesus essentially is and was, God. In contrast, my mother did, may God bless her, as regards me. Again, while you do not claim Mary is the mother of Jesus Divinity, the constant uncritical use of the term, in contrast to the Biblical manner, is the issue.


7,883 posted on 02/01/2010 7:37:56 AM PST by daniel1212 (Pro 25:13 As the cold of snow in the time of harvest, so is a faithful messenger [frozen chosen])
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To: daniel1212; Mad Dawg
MoG.. denotes an ontological oneness with that which she is the mother of, but to which aspect she contributed nothing.

Ontological - the branch of metaphysics that studies the nature of existence or being as such.

What context left out?

But that i mean she did not biologically contribute to who Jesus essentially is and was, God. In contrast, my mother did, may God bless her, as regards me. Again, while you do not claim Mary is the mother of Jesus Divinity, the constant uncritical use of the term, in contrast to the Biblical manner, is the issue.

The Biblical manner IS to call Her Mother of the Lord (Luke 1:43)
7,889 posted on 02/01/2010 8:04:11 AM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: daniel1212
MoG.. denotes an ontological oneness with that which she is the mother of, but to which aspect she contributed nothing.

But that i mean she did not biologically contribute to who Jesus essentially is and was, God. In contrast, my mother did, may God bless her, as regards me. Again, while you do not claim Mary is the mother of Jesus Divinity, the constant uncritical use of the term, in contrast to the Biblical manner, is the issue.

VERY WELL PUT, imho. Thanks.

7,894 posted on 02/01/2010 8:34:41 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: daniel1212
MoG.. denotes an ontological oneness with that which she is the mother of, but to which aspect she contributed nothing.

I do not agree that it denotes that. Here we have an insistence that we are using the term Mother uniquely and, evidently, only in this context.

Aristotle does not use it that way. Modern Biology does not use it that way. Nobody else uses it that way. But when Catholics say "Mother of God," we mean something by "mother" that nobody else means. And that thing is wrong.

Somehow I'm not ready to plead guilty.

7,909 posted on 02/01/2010 9:00:30 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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