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To: Mad Dawg
I am encouraged by the lies so many Protestants repeatedly tell one another about the Catholic Church. And if they really want to burn up bandwidth over our name ... well, let them, and I hope they enjoy themselves.

They are not lies Bad Dog...The prayers from your Holy (cough) Saints reveal to us the workings of your religion...And it ain't pretty...

Most Holy Virgin! Who art the greatest consolation that I receive from God, thou who art the heavenly dew which assuages all my pains, thou who art the light of my soul when it is enveloped in darkness, thou who art my guide in unknown paths, the support of my weakness, my treasure in poverty, my remedy in sickness, my consolation in trouble, my refuge in misery, and the hope of my salvation, hear my supplications, have pity on me, as becomes the Mother of so good a God, and obtain for me a favourable reception of all my petitions at the throne of mercy. St. Germanus

Mary : our life, our sweetness, and our hope : in three parts principally taken from authorized works / by Bernard Widger Dublin : J. Duffy & Co., 1904 BX2160 .W54 1904, p. 188-9 You guys have attributed to the mother, the queen of heaven, those things that are available only from God by Jesus Christ...

725 posted on 01/08/2010 7:37:08 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
They are not lies ...

The best lies start with some truth and distort it.

I pray a rosary a day (almost). In it is the Salve Regina, from which the title of the book you cite is taken: Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra = Our life, our sweetness, and our hope.

I also frequently pray the memorare a lot. (I hope you know Latin; the English translation is sappy, inaccurate, sappy, and icky -- and sappy.)

Yet, when I'm healthy enough to go to Mass every day. I still end up with the vast majority of my time devoted to our Lord -- explicitly so.

So I KNOW that they're lies, well, falsehoods at best. And, having been asked once to provide corroboration to my account of having seen something almost 50 years ago, I know that I won't be believed. That's okay, God saw and heard. -- Psalm 35:22

And the first time I saw the Salve Regina I though the whole thing was icky. Appearances can be deceiving and tastes change.

I remember telling here how I heard Trappists singing the Salve after bed time prayers one night and suddenly I "got" it.

Then one of the most poisonous of your side said she was confident that it was in a setting with incense and such. What she showed was ignorance of the austerity and simplicity of Trappists and their worship, but that's okay. When people take refuge in lies, sometimes the best thing to do is to wait until they realize they're trapped before offering to help.

738 posted on 01/08/2010 8:52:34 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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