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To: Iscool
They are not lies ...

The best lies start with some truth and distort it.

I pray a rosary a day (almost). In it is the Salve Regina, from which the title of the book you cite is taken: Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra = Our life, our sweetness, and our hope.

I also frequently pray the memorare a lot. (I hope you know Latin; the English translation is sappy, inaccurate, sappy, and icky -- and sappy.)

Yet, when I'm healthy enough to go to Mass every day. I still end up with the vast majority of my time devoted to our Lord -- explicitly so.

So I KNOW that they're lies, well, falsehoods at best. And, having been asked once to provide corroboration to my account of having seen something almost 50 years ago, I know that I won't be believed. That's okay, God saw and heard. -- Psalm 35:22

And the first time I saw the Salve Regina I though the whole thing was icky. Appearances can be deceiving and tastes change.

I remember telling here how I heard Trappists singing the Salve after bed time prayers one night and suddenly I "got" it.

Then one of the most poisonous of your side said she was confident that it was in a setting with incense and such. What she showed was ignorance of the austerity and simplicity of Trappists and their worship, but that's okay. When people take refuge in lies, sometimes the best thing to do is to wait until they realize they're trapped before offering to help.

738 posted on 01/08/2010 8:52:34 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
So I KNOW that they're lies, well, falsehoods at best. And, having been asked once to provide corroboration to my account of having seen something almost 50 years ago, I know that I won't be believed. That's okay, God saw and heard. -- Psalm 35:22

I would never tell some one that they didn't see something...Many people have seen things they would consider to be out of the ordinary...Apparently God knows people will see things...That's why he says to test them...

I grew up with a couple different families that were always seeing things...Dead people would become visible...Picture frames would slowly slide down the wall...

My first wife's Grandmother, (yes I have been married more than once) used to hold seances in her basement...Demons, Demons, Demons...

Test the spirits...Prove all things...

Now if someone came to me and suggested they had seen or heard something that compelled them to seek out the Catholic religion, I can believe that...What would be impossible for me to believe is that vision had any thing to do with the God that I worship or His church...

842 posted on 01/08/2010 3:28:26 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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