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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God, OTOH, does have the power to effectuate the salvation of those He elects. That is predestination.

That is tautology.
6,796 posted on 01/27/2010 7:23:30 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Everything, ultimately, is circular reasoning.


6,807 posted on 01/27/2010 9:06:02 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: aruanan; Dr. Eckleburg
FK: God, OTOH, does have the power to effectuate the salvation of those He elects. That is predestination.

That is tautology.

How is that tautology? My post distinguishes between election and predestination, but acknowledges that they go hand in hand. What is your criticism?

7,847 posted on 02/01/2010 12:26:55 AM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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