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To: Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg; Iscool; wmfights; esquirette; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Forest Keeper
Ha! Ha! you Take a BLOGSPOT...and portray it as official Church website?

Oh, come on. While this is not the "official" website of the Church, anyone who has done any reading on this subject knows full well there have been constant petitions to change (yes, change) the view of Mary. All one has to do is look how the doctrine of Mary has "evolved" into "Co-Redemptress". Here is what the official Catholic Encyclopedia states in part:

Frankly I don't understand why Catholics don't wish to admit they believe Mary to be co-equal with the Son, that she imparts grace, that the atonement is nothing more than Christ showing us how to live, that the inspired works in scripture is no more than any other writings, or that they actually do worship (yes, not venerate) relics and Mary.

But then, perhaps I do and I suspect they know also.

6,022 posted on 01/23/2010 2:18:46 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Great post.

However, I can only take small amounts of that level of blasphemy at one time.

Congrats on your strength and courage in Him.


6,033 posted on 01/23/2010 5:59:45 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: HarleyD
Frankly I don't understand why Catholics don't wish to admit they believe Mary to be co-equal with the Son, that she imparts grace, that the atonement is nothing more than Christ showing us how to live, that the inspired works in scripture is no more than any other writings, or that they actually do worship (yes, not venerate) relics and Mary.

Why do we not "admit" such things?

Because they are not true.

They are anti-Catholic slanders.

6,035 posted on 01/23/2010 6:56:31 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: HarleyD

You wrote:

“Frankly I don’t understand why Catholics don’t wish to admit they believe Mary to be co-equal with the Son, that she imparts grace, that the atonement is nothing more than Christ showing us how to live, that the inspired works in scripture is no more than any other writings, or that they actually do worship (yes, not venerate) relics and Mary.
But then, perhaps I do and I suspect they know also.”

Wow, that has to be one of the most ridiculous and erroneous posted things I’ve ever seen. That’s worse than the bunny with a pancake on its head. Let’s see:

1. “Frankly I don’t understand why Catholics don’t wish to admit they believe Mary to be co-equal with the Son,”

Well, it’s probably because none of us believe it. I’ve never encountered a single Catholic who does believe it. Not one.

2. “that she imparts grace,”

What she does with grace is merely as a vessel used by God.

3. “that the atonement is nothing more than Christ showing us how to live,”

I’m not even sure what that’s supposed to mean. I always thought the atonement was Christ dying on the cross for our sins, you know, the redemption. Gee, do you anti-Catholics believe something differently?

4. “that the inspired works in scripture is no more than any other writings,”

We believe that the scriptures are inspired and inerrant. No other writings are both inspired and inerrant.

5. “or that they actually do worship (yes, not venerate) relics and Mary.”

I know of no Catholic who worships Mary or relics. We do venerate them.


6,046 posted on 01/23/2010 7:20:20 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: HarleyD
Frankly I don't understand why Catholics don't wish to admit they believe Mary to be co-equal with the Son, that she imparts grace, that the atonement is nothing more than Christ showing us how to live, that the inspired works in scripture is no more than any other writings, or that they actually do worship (yes, not venerate) relics and Mary.

If that's what you want to believe, knock yourself out.

Myself, I'll stick with Christianity, thanks.

6,082 posted on 01/23/2010 8:42:55 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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