[Quix]

No, you may have posted from websites that purport to be owned by individual Catholics, but I have yet to see one that is actually sanctioned by the Church or even an individual diocese or parish. Get back to me if you can find one of these.

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WHAT A MANIACAL FARCE of mangled, shredded "logic" and shredded organizational, sociological, member FACTS.

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IF
the
INSTITUTION
of
The Vatican
and associated congregations

REALLY

was the least bit interested in
FACTUALLY,
ACTUALLY,
TRULY,
REALLY,
EFFECTIVELY,
. . .

Disciplining folks

toward
TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS

in such matters,

THEN

Every bloke on the planet who could read

Would constantly see tons of

admonishments from
THE VATICAN

in print, on the web,
preached frequently from every
Roman Catholic pulpit

Stern admonishments against such heresies.
There would be demands to clearly display
disclaimers of such having anything to do
with Roman Catholicism/the Vatican.
Failure to
CLEARLY DIVORCE SUCH HERESIES
from all Vatican related association
would routinely involve
real or threatened legal action.

We'd see a wholesale
PROHIBITION AGAINST
and lack of evidence
of any such behaviors, actions

ON THE PART OF
officials and priests
of the Vatican and related congregations.

INSTEAD

We see the opposite.

We see every kind of
ENCOURAGEMENT
TOWARD SUCH
IDOLATROUS
BEHAVIORS

As one might expect to see
were such idolatries
in fact,
A
CENTRAL
PART

Of the foundational
dogma
of the organization.

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN
a tiny fractional minority
of the Vatican documents.

PRETENDING

That the Vatican prohibits, proscribes a list of idolatrous behaviors

based on a tiny fraction of the Vatican documents

while, IN FACT,

most folks on the planet have abundant opportunity to

OBSERVE THE OPPOSITE

IS
OUTRAGEOUSLY
BRAZENLY
ABSURD
TO THE MAX!

However, I'm sure, omniscient, Almighty God In Heaven

is FOOLED to the max [/sar to the max].

[wagglebee]

[Judith Anne]

Well, there are only about a billion of us for the Inquisition to police.

And there’s that silly matter of free will....

Catholics are not perfect. Do you know anyone perfect?

[Mad Dawg]

No offense, but it seems your side keeps on missing the point, keeps on misstating what the leaders and clergy of the Church try to do or mean to do.

I mean when you all read the conciliar anathemas, you don't see that they are chiefly aimed at people who are teaching. Sure, as an enquirer one might legitimately question, say, the nature of the Sacrament, the relationship between faith and works, the names of the books in the canon of Scripture. But if somebody gets up and proclaims, as if with authority, something the Church finds to be wrong, certainly the Church has the duty first to say the teaching is wrong and then, much much later, to say that teacher is no longer permitted to claim to represent the Church.

If some flamer somewhere puts up a web-site which recommends sacrificing chickens before an image of Our Lady of Fatima, what exactly do you think the Church SHOULD do, what CAN she do? Should there be a website maintained by the Vatican or the USCCB where we can report heterodox web sites? And then they send the Ninja Jesuits or try DNS server attacks?

If the Church acted like Ralph "Lauren" Lipschitz and sent nasty letters and threats of lawsuits to every one who messed with our stuff, if we COULD do what you seem to expect, then you all would say we were a bunch of paranoid fascists.

It's a little like global warming. When the Algores say that ANY data whatsoever just PROVES global warming, then you KNOW that they're BSing OR that they're a religion.

When everything we do is wrong, then we know that it is a matter of the religion of our antagonists, and that that whatever our response (short of renouncing the Church) it will be folded into the next attack.

Almost the definition of "playing into the pathology," and certainly not especially edifying.

[Cronos]

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IF
the
INSTITUTION

REALLY

was the least bit interested in
FACTUALLY,
ACTUALLY,
TRULY,
REALLY,
EFFECTIVELY,
. . .

Disciplining folks

toward
TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS

in such matters,

THEN

Every bloke on the planet who could read

Would constantly see tons of

admonishments from

in print, on the web,
preached frequently from every pulpit

Stern admonishments against such heresies.
There would be demands to clearly display
disclaimers of such having anything
Failure to
CLEARLY DIVORCE SUCH HERESIES
from all related association
would routinely involve
real or threatened legal action.

We'd see a wholesale
PROHIBITION AGAINST
and lack of evidence
of any such behaviors, actions

[Natural Law]

Daddy come quick! There’s been another explosion down at the HTML factory!