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To: esquirette

You wrote:

“Catholicism clearly holds that He is not sovereign, and you have so stated by your responses.”

Please show where Catholicism holds God is not sovreign.


5,139 posted on 01/20/2010 8:39:16 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998; esquirette
Please show where Catholicism holds God is not sovreign.

If God permits freedom, in their thinking, He is not sovereign.

Strange but true.

5,151 posted on 01/20/2010 8:58:45 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: vladimir998

Catholicism proposes that God is not sovereign in many ways. Here is one:

“When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into heaven, brings Christ down from His throne and places Him upon our altar, to be offered up again as the victim for the sins of man. It is a greater power than that of monarch and emperors.”

“It is greater than of saints and angels, greater than that of seraphim and cherubim. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. While the Virgin Mary was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven and renders him present on our altar as the eternal victim for the sins of man not once, but a thousand times.”

“The priest speaks and lo, Christ the eternal omnipotent God bows his head in humble obedience to the priest’s command.”

“Of what sublime dignity is the office of the Christian priest, who is thus privileged to act as ambassador and Vice Regent of Christ on earth. He continues the assertion ministry of Christ. He teaches the faithful with the authority of Christ. He pardons the penitent sinner with the power of Christ. He offers up again the same sacrifice of adoration and atonement which Christ offered on Calvary. No wonder that the name which spiritual writers are especially fond of applies to the priest, is that of Alter Christus, for the priest is and should be another Christ.”

—Fr. John O’Brien, “The Faith of Millions”


5,185 posted on 01/20/2010 9:59:22 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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