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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"The fact is you told us Father Baker's article was inaccurate as to RCC beliefs, suspicious that the link itself was fake."

The most fake thing is your scholarly ethics. Even in this simplest level of peer review you are found woefully lacking. Nugget mining and selective publication of only corroborative information really paints you personally in a bad light and actually aids your antitheses in that you would resort to those tactics to prove your case. It suggests that even you do not believe your argument.

4,100 posted on 01/17/2010 10:18:46 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
scholarly ethics.

I'm not sure that scholarly ethics are high on the values list of some of our antagonists. They are a law unto themselves -- as Calvin morphs into Nietzsche, and refusing to submit their wills to God they finally shoot out into the void where even obeying themselves is not an option.

4,126 posted on 01/17/2010 10:57:31 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

Dr E didn’t make the article up.

It is listed here: http://www.catholic-pages.com/DIR/priesthood.asp

but is no longer available. The original article was published in 1998, so either time or error has resulted in the link not working.

It seems consistent with his statement:

“The Mass is a re-presentation now, in an unbloody manner, of the bloody sacrifice of the cross over nineteen hundred years ago. Since it is a re-offering of Jesus on Calvary, the Mass is rightly referred to as “the holy Sacrifice of the Mass”, although we do not hear this expression much today. It has been replaced with the more general and vague “liturgy”, which also applies to the celebration of the other sacraments.”

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0946.htm

Also see:

“Priests are made, not born. Although his discipleship must deepen during the course of his ministry, a man must be a thoroughly converted Christian disciple before he can be a priest. Discipleship is the prerequisite for priesthood. A Christian disciple is someone whose life is formed by the conviction that, in looking on the cross of Christ, one is looking at the central truth of human history: God’s love for the world, which was so great that God gave his son for its redemption. Convinced of that, a man ordained a priest becomes another Christ, an “alter Christus,” another witness to the truth that God intends for humanity a destiny beyond our imagining: eternal life within the light and love of the Holy Trinity.” - George Weigel

http://www.piercedhearts.org/jpii/george_weigel_articles/priests_icon_christ_weigel.htm

Also here:

As an alter Christus, the priest is profoundly united to the Word of the Father who, in becoming incarnate took the form of a servant, he became a servant (Phil 2: 5-11). The priest is a servant of Christ, in the sense that his existence, configured to Christ ontologically, acquires an essentially relational character: he is in Christ, for Christ and with Christ, at the service of humankind. Because he belongs to Christ, the priest is radically at the service of all people: he is the minister of their salvation, their happiness and their authentic liberation, developing, in this gradual assumption of Christ’s will, in prayer, in “being heart to heart” with him. Therefore this is the indispensable condition for every proclamation, which entails participation in the sacramental offering of the Eucharist and docile obedience to the Church.

Benedict XVI 06/24/2009

http://www.annussacerdotalis.org/annus_sacerdotalis/annus_sacerdotalis___english/00002130_Alter_Christus.html

“At ordination, a priest becomes another person, commissioned not simply to act in the name of Christ, but to be another Christ, an alter Christus. This teaching was not an original insight of the Second Vatican Council. It is the traditional teaching of the Church. In this book, Father Connor helps the priest to see once again, in fresh terms, that this is truly the essence of the priesthood. He shows how, in the Eucharist the priest finds his raison d’être for being a priest, the source of all his strength in the ministry, the summit of all his prayers.”

a book review/promo:

http://www.albahouse.org/Meditations.htm

Or this:

The ALTER CHRISTUS FACTOR Why the Priest is the alter Christus in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

http://www.dailycatholic.org/2004alt.htm

FWIW, I don’t have the patience to research to find out if any of these are fake Catholic sites.


4,180 posted on 01/17/2010 12:02:57 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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