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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

Dr E didn’t make the article up.

It is listed here: http://www.catholic-pages.com/DIR/priesthood.asp

but is no longer available. The original article was published in 1998, so either time or error has resulted in the link not working.

It seems consistent with his statement:

“The Mass is a re-presentation now, in an unbloody manner, of the bloody sacrifice of the cross over nineteen hundred years ago. Since it is a re-offering of Jesus on Calvary, the Mass is rightly referred to as “the holy Sacrifice of the Mass”, although we do not hear this expression much today. It has been replaced with the more general and vague “liturgy”, which also applies to the celebration of the other sacraments.”

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0946.htm

Also see:

“Priests are made, not born. Although his discipleship must deepen during the course of his ministry, a man must be a thoroughly converted Christian disciple before he can be a priest. Discipleship is the prerequisite for priesthood. A Christian disciple is someone whose life is formed by the conviction that, in looking on the cross of Christ, one is looking at the central truth of human history: God’s love for the world, which was so great that God gave his son for its redemption. Convinced of that, a man ordained a priest becomes another Christ, an “alter Christus,” another witness to the truth that God intends for humanity a destiny beyond our imagining: eternal life within the light and love of the Holy Trinity.” - George Weigel

http://www.piercedhearts.org/jpii/george_weigel_articles/priests_icon_christ_weigel.htm

Also here:

As an alter Christus, the priest is profoundly united to the Word of the Father who, in becoming incarnate took the form of a servant, he became a servant (Phil 2: 5-11). The priest is a servant of Christ, in the sense that his existence, configured to Christ ontologically, acquires an essentially relational character: he is in Christ, for Christ and with Christ, at the service of humankind. Because he belongs to Christ, the priest is radically at the service of all people: he is the minister of their salvation, their happiness and their authentic liberation, developing, in this gradual assumption of Christ’s will, in prayer, in “being heart to heart” with him. Therefore this is the indispensable condition for every proclamation, which entails participation in the sacramental offering of the Eucharist and docile obedience to the Church.

Benedict XVI 06/24/2009

http://www.annussacerdotalis.org/annus_sacerdotalis/annus_sacerdotalis___english/00002130_Alter_Christus.html

“At ordination, a priest becomes another person, commissioned not simply to act in the name of Christ, but to be another Christ, an alter Christus. This teaching was not an original insight of the Second Vatican Council. It is the traditional teaching of the Church. In this book, Father Connor helps the priest to see once again, in fresh terms, that this is truly the essence of the priesthood. He shows how, in the Eucharist the priest finds his raison d’être for being a priest, the source of all his strength in the ministry, the summit of all his prayers.”

a book review/promo:

http://www.albahouse.org/Meditations.htm

Or this:

The ALTER CHRISTUS FACTOR Why the Priest is the alter Christus in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

http://www.dailycatholic.org/2004alt.htm

FWIW, I don’t have the patience to research to find out if any of these are fake Catholic sites.


4,180 posted on 01/17/2010 12:02:57 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers
" The original article was published in 1998, so either time or error has resulted in the link not working."

Or perhaps it was pulled because it failed Nihil Obstat, or because it was falsely attributed to a priest, or...??? The essential point is that even if it were authored by one errant priest, which is in doubt, it does NOT represent the position of the Catholic Church or the vast majority of catholics and Catholic laity. To suggest or represent otherwise is literally bearing false witness.

4,190 posted on 01/17/2010 12:27:22 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Mr Rogers
To tell you the truth, while I see how this all can be understood as some kind of weird mojo, I just have never been scandalized by it.

First, just to set the conceptual framework, It's good to look at what an apostle is, in the secular use of the word. It is ballpark the same as "agent," in that the apostle acts for his principal and the principal is bound by the acts of the agent.

But then, any of us have, after our order, or may have been in a situation where we were witnessing to a distressed soul and where it is up to us to convey the suffering love of Jesus. Just sticking with some people is an entree into suffering!

And sometimes it is the sticking with that conveys what our words to do convey. In that case we have, as we would say, exercised an apostolate, we have been a "stand-in" for IHS.

It's only when the idea sneaks in that the "power" is somehow autonomous that we end up with disaster, IMHO.

4,200 posted on 01/17/2010 1:03:42 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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