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To: Petronski
I believe you at one time asked me if I ever took a course in logic. I guess I should ask the same question.

Are you saying that the term "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth," means that everyone can repent if they want to? Wow, that's reading a bit more into the text, don't you think? Please tell me what you think it means?

3,443 posted on 01/15/2010 4:27:05 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Are you saying that the term "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth," means that everyone can repent if they want to?

It makes no comment on that question either way. It neither says He must nor that He cannot. It says He may perhaps.

I'm not loading anything into the text that isn't there. Your position seems to be that, since you're loading something into the text and I disagree, I therefore must be trying to load the opposite.

But that verse does not address whether He must or does not. It says He may perhaps.

3,445 posted on 01/15/2010 4:30:02 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: HarleyD
Are you saying that the term "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth," means that everyone can repent if they want to? Wow, that's reading a bit more into the text, don't you think? Please tell me what you think it means?

Ya know Harley this is a pretty clear scripture.. the fact that one can shrug and say it may not mean what it says only proves the truth of scripture..It indeed "is foolishness to those that are perishing"

3,515 posted on 01/15/2010 6:52:45 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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