To: HarleyD
Are you saying that the term "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth," means that everyone can repent if they want to?It makes no comment on that question either way. It neither says He must nor that He cannot. It says He may perhaps.
I'm not loading anything into the text that isn't there. Your position seems to be that, since you're loading something into the text and I disagree, I therefore must be trying to load the opposite.
But that verse does not address whether He must or does not. It says He may perhaps.
3,445 posted on
01/15/2010 4:30:02 PM PST by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Petronski
I'm not loading anything into the text that isn't there. Your position seems to be that, since you're loading something into the text and I disagree, I therefore must be trying to load the opposite. That happens a LOT with some people...;-D
3,451 posted on
01/15/2010 4:41:23 PM PST by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
To: Petronski
If I said, "Your mother may perhaps give you a piece of apple pie.", what would you take that to mean? Wouldn't it mean that she may or may not? Wouldn't it be her decision to give you a piece of apple pie? What exactly is the meaning of perhaps if it not "may or may not"?
If I took that comment and paraphrase it by saying, "Your mother must decide whether to give you a piece of apple pie."; then how is that different that what is above. Your mother still must decide whether to give you a piece of apple pie or not.
There is nothing loading the text. With all due respect, you're not even making grammatical sense.
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