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To: Mad Dawg; 1000 silverlings; Quix; blue-duncan; the_conscience; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; ...
How many people do you suppose think that we think that you have called us "feelthy papists" out loud and in front of God and everybody?

That is a disgusting accusation revealing a peculiar and baseless defensiveness that paints the papacy as some poor put-upon waif when in fact it is a wealthy, powerful bureaucracy with untold riches, powerful allies and its own standing army.

I doubt anyone on FR other than Roman Catholics like yourself uses the term, "feelthy papists."

We do use the nomenclature, "Roman Catholics," however, which is a valid name for that particular denomination.

3,332 posted on 01/15/2010 11:14:38 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
That is a disgusting accusation...

It is not an accusation of any kind.

3,336 posted on 01/15/2010 11:24:45 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I know thinking and reading are difficult for some. I am just always astonished when I am given such startling evidence!

I wrote and you quoted:

How many people do you suppose think that we think that you have called us "feelthy papists" out loud and in front of God and everybody?

YOU responded:

That is a disgusting accusation revealing a peculiar and baseless defensiveness that paints the papacy as some poor put-upon waif when in fact it is a wealthy, powerful bureaucracy with untold riches, powerful allies and its own standing army.

Now, let's go carefully here. It's really not that hard. You can do it.

The first thing we notice is that what I wrote was a QUESTION! One clue would be the question mark. And the other would be the syntax.

Now, if it's a QUESTION, it is not a STATEMENT, right?

And if it's not a STATEMENT then we know it's not an accusation.

See? Easy!

Now let's look at the question. Let's break it down together:

How many people [for example lurkers] think that we [the Catholics] think that you [the non-Catholic adversaries] have called us [Catholics again] 'feelthy papists' [etc.]

The "do you suppose" part is asking you to consider the question.

So we could rephrase it like this:

Do you really think there are a lot of lurkers who think that we Catholics are accusing you of calling us nasty names? How many would you say?"
Okay, now let's sum up:

(1) It can't be any kind of accusation, disgusting or not, because it's a question.

(2) To the extent that it suggests anything it asks you to consider that most lurkers have the sense to see that we do NOT think you call us nasty names.

Consequently the charge that it is an accusation is totally ridiculous.

3,339 posted on 01/15/2010 11:37:34 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg; the_conscience

Unless you’ve realised it by now, The Church is not a denomination. Protestant groups like Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists or Baptists like the Southern Baptists are denominations. Cults are like the OPC, the various acronomyned groups like BPC, MCC, APC etc.


3,554 posted on 01/15/2010 9:47:58 PM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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