[sitetest]

Dear kosta50,

I understand your argument, but it isn't what the Catholic Church believes.

In Catholic teaching, the Catholic Church is not deficient as a result of the schism of the Orthodox Churches from the Church. She remains The Church. The Orthodox Churches do not, of themselves.

“Otherwise, the Pope would not be making reunion his No. 1 priority, and Orthodox prelates would not be working with him to find a way to reestablish that communion.”

Another reason for making this a high priority (to the Orthodox this may appear as the “No. 1 priority,” but I'm not so sure it is to Pope Benedict) is that it is that for which Jesus prayed.

“What is the ‘ontological’ difference between the two particular Churches? You are tossing around a term which, I am beginning to think, you do not fully understand.”

Sorry, but I have a personal rule about leaving discussions when the posts of my interlocutor have become condescending, at least in those parts where they have deterioriated thusly.

In any event, your argument is with the Catholic Church, not with me.

“Show me that the Orthodox Church is not ontologcially catholic and you can have your labeling.”

I've already posited that it's beside the point. I've written some rather long sections of posts about why. Our conversation has gone on fairly long, and I ask pardon that I don't want to repeat myself on the points that I've posited as to why the issue of ontology is beside the point anyway.

I think the horse is well-past dead, it seems to me that we've rounded the corner and begun to reiterate what's already been said.

As to the rest of your post, I've already answered most or all of it, but you seem to reject what I argued and why I think that what you suggest isn't quite right. That's fine, but I'm not going to re-argue it.

I will leave, if you like, the last word to you.

God bless you.

sitetest

[MarkBsnr]

Another reason for making this a high priority (to the Orthodox this may appear as the “No. 1 priority,” but I'm not so sure it is to Pope Benedict) is that it is that for which Jesus prayed.

This is not gracious, nor is it close to the truth. I pray that you weigh your words a little more carefully next time you broach this subject. If you would care for some Roman Catholic guidance, please PM me for some instruction.

[Quix]

Arrogant self-righteous bureaucratic powermongering !!!!CONTROL!!!! phreaque magicsterical !!!!TRADITION!!!! bound elitism has always had piles of supporting law, !!!!TRADITION!!!! . . . from 2,000 years ago until now.

Some things never change.

[Cronos]

Dear Sitetest, the Church is wounded due to the antagonism between it's two lungs. Both are lacking some indefinable something due to the absence of the other. Unity is necessary in order for us both to learn from the other and commune with the other. That is a priority for all of us. We can commune with the Orthodox, Orientals, Assyrians (all Apostolic Church). With the Lutherans and others a separate tact is needed. If we cannot have unity with them, we must be prepared to stand with them against the twin evils of Secularism andIslam which threaten us all

All these arguments we have among each other are fine as long as tomorrow when, say, the Orthodox Presbyterian C is threatened by, say Code Pink, we stand WITH THE OPC against this mutual enemy.