It's not only that the Romanists make the most outrageous claims it's also the fact that the Romanists on this forum dominate the discussion in shrill terms.
I suggested to another Romanists that since Free Republic is ostensibly a forum dedicated to the preservation of the ideals of the founding of this country that those religions from which those ideals originally sprang should in some way be recognized in a way that acknowledges those contributions and CONSERVES that acknowledgment.
I'm happy that through Vatican II the Roman Church has moved towards our position. I'm also fine with Romanists being able to speak freely about their beliefs because that is one of the fundamental ideals. I received a freepmail from one of your co-religionists asking that I lock this thread because people were quitting Free Republic because of it. Since I'm not an Administrator on this site I have no authority to lock a thread and why would I want to quench free speech because some people can't accept the free speech of others in opposition to the ideal?
Frankly, if we want to conserve the ideals of the founding of this country then we better have a pretty good idea where those ideals came from and the basis of those ideals.
None of us knows as much about the other guys position as we think we do.
to try to lay Washington's or Jefferson's thought at the feet of Calvin is to try no mean thing. To ignore some of the work on the natural rights of man done in the 16th century by Dominicans and others is to ignore a critical aspect of the development of political thought in the 2nd millennium. We were advocating for the rights of individuals and of unchristian nations before the Reformation had its wheels up.
Everyone knows, or thinks he knows, the dark side of the Inquisition. What is less known is that many (regrettably not all) of the Inquisitors were known for scrupulous attention to due process, as that was understood in those days.
As for "shrill", I am not competent to judge or comment.
I suggested to another Romanists that since Free Republic is ostensibly a forum dedicated to the preservation of the ideals of the founding of this country that those religions from which those ideals originally sprang should in some way be recognized in a way that acknowledges those contributions and CONSERVES that acknowledgment.
I'm happy that through Vatican II the Roman Church has moved towards our position. I'm also fine with Romanists being able to speak freely about their beliefs because that is one of the fundamental ideals. I received a freepmail from one of your co-religionists asking that I lock this thread because people were quitting Free Republic because of it. Since I'm not an Administrator on this site I have no authority to lock a thread and why would I want to quench free speech because some people can't accept the free speech of others in opposition to the ideal?
Frankly, if we want to conserve the ideals of the founding of this country then we better have a pretty good idea where those ideals came from and the basis of those ideals.
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INDEED TO THE MAX.
And though I might prefer in some respects some of the time a more arm around the shoulder kind of dialogue . . .
I DON'T REALLY MIND ALL
****THAT****
MUCH
that the Vaticans et al are sooooo intensely, dogmatically SHRILL.
I DO mind horrifically
THAT THEY PRESUME TO
INSIST IN THE MOST AUTHORITARIAN
!!!!CONTROL!!!! PHREAQUE !!!!DEMANDING!!!! TERMS
[witness the threat to castigate FR on another site that JimRob started that thread about;
.
witness all the withdrawals of the RC's who haven't gotten their way in terms of turning this place into an office of the Vatican propaganda dept
.
witness all the shrill !!!!DEMANDS!!!! that mods protect their sensibilities by trashing Protty's sensibilities]
. . . that they PRESUME TO !!!!DEMAND!!!!
THAT THEY BE THE !!!!ONLYI!!!! SHRILL voices on FR.
THAT DOUBLE STANDARD IS A STENCH FROM HELL.
And If something happens to me, I hope someone else has the courage and persistence to continue to call that spade a spade as long as it rears its ugly head.