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To: the_conscience
Two points: Insisting on a zero sum game is not a good way to get people to play the game you want them to play.

None of us knows as much about the other guys position as we think we do.

to try to lay Washington's or Jefferson's thought at the feet of Calvin is to try no mean thing. To ignore some of the work on the natural rights of man done in the 16th century by Dominicans and others is to ignore a critical aspect of the development of political thought in the 2nd millennium. We were advocating for the rights of individuals and of unchristian nations before the Reformation had its wheels up.

Everyone knows, or thinks he knows, the dark side of the Inquisition. What is less known is that many (regrettably not all) of the Inquisitors were known for scrupulous attention to due process, as that was understood in those days.

As for "shrill", I am not competent to judge or comment.

1,469 posted on 01/10/2010 6:40:36 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

lol

Where did I say anything about a zero sum game?

I’m happy to acknowledge the work of ancient Romanists towards natural rights. But there was a Reformation, ya know, and out of that Reformation grew what we know as natural rights. The Romanists finally came along kicking and screaming (and many still are).

I’m not convinced that the chest-thumping of Romanists is going to conserve those natural rights.


1,478 posted on 01/10/2010 6:53:37 PM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Excellent points.


1,507 posted on 01/10/2010 8:08:27 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg

Perhaps you could get Mary to hold some classes on that

zero-sum-game

business with the rabid cliques in the Vatican camp hereon.

I don’t think they’d listen to Jesus, or God or The Pope.


1,509 posted on 01/10/2010 8:10:29 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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