None of us knows as much about the other guys position as we think we do.
to try to lay Washington's or Jefferson's thought at the feet of Calvin is to try no mean thing. To ignore some of the work on the natural rights of man done in the 16th century by Dominicans and others is to ignore a critical aspect of the development of political thought in the 2nd millennium. We were advocating for the rights of individuals and of unchristian nations before the Reformation had its wheels up.
Everyone knows, or thinks he knows, the dark side of the Inquisition. What is less known is that many (regrettably not all) of the Inquisitors were known for scrupulous attention to due process, as that was understood in those days.
As for "shrill", I am not competent to judge or comment.
lol
Where did I say anything about a zero sum game?
I’m happy to acknowledge the work of ancient Romanists towards natural rights. But there was a Reformation, ya know, and out of that Reformation grew what we know as natural rights. The Romanists finally came along kicking and screaming (and many still are).
I’m not convinced that the chest-thumping of Romanists is going to conserve those natural rights.
Excellent points.
Perhaps you could get Mary to hold some classes on that
zero-sum-game
business with the rabid cliques in the Vatican camp hereon.
I don’t think they’d listen to Jesus, or God or The Pope.