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To: esquirette

Faith without works is dead.

Do you imagine a dead faith could lead one to redemption?


1,402 posted on 01/10/2010 12:20:39 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

“Faith without works is dead.”

True. Faith that produces no works is dead faith.

At the same time, are you saying that we bring our works to the work of Christ for salvation? If that is true, how do we know when our works are complete to assure salvation?

Does the merciful God let us know the precise requirements for salvation?


1,406 posted on 01/10/2010 12:31:09 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: Petronski; esquirette
Faith without works is dead.

Dear me, Petronski, are you quoting James 2:20, "...that faith without works is dead." ?

Of course, this defines The Church and faith with positive actions, that we must have faith that our savior is Jesus Christ, but at the same time our actions reflect that faith. So, in a sense, positive, Godly, actions or deeds cannot alone get you into heaven, nor does faith alone as is says in James 2:26 that faith without works is dead and in Romans 3:22 we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Catholic theology supports these teachings of the Bible.

“good works are done to glorify God and are done in honor of him.”

“Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification at the beginning of conversion,”
1,577 posted on 01/10/2010 9:47:30 PM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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