Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?

Me

[daniel1212]

That is fulfilled in the verses i supplied. Rev. 5:13. It is to the glory of God the Father, that Jesus receive glory,due to His obedience, and the glory given Him is that which only God can be given. Moses, David, angels etc. were given functional positions but were not to be worshiped. You seem to think that because there exists a heirachial order, and in which one can act in obedience and be exalted then this excludes them being of the same Divine nature, which is well evidenced. If you reward your wife and kids, don’t assume they equal to the dog.

[Judith Anne]

What did Christ mean, when He said, “Before Abraham was, I am.”

There’s your answer.

[Cronos]

Then why would you, a man who says he is a Baptist, use the term (eucharist) which for 500 years has carried the clear and intentional meaning of re-sacrificing Christ anew with each mass

Because it doesn't mean that -- at least not in The Church or in Christianity. What do the Machen worshippers of the Orthodox Presbyterian cult believe?

[NoGrayZone]

"The Church teaches that God, of which Jesus is one third,"

One third??? Really? Is that what you reduce the Son of God to? My goodness. You people really need to look inside yourselves and really see what you actually see the Son of God is.

I have been called a "heretic"...or close to it, but that gives me the creepies!

One third, what an insult!

[MarkBsnr]

You tell me. Perhaps that will jog my memory.

Now, now. Come on. Think. And pray. Here's a memory jogger:

[Cronos]

God choose Greek because it is the most precise language..

incorrect -- the most precise language at that time was Sanskrit (it still is, actually, very mathematically precise). And, Christ mostly spoke in Aramaic, remember, not Greek (which was Koine Greek in any case, not Attiq Greek)

[NoGrayZone]

Good scripture!!! =)

Sorry....I’m so into lol cats, got it.

[Natural Law]

"One third, what an insult!"

You don't have to be a mathematician to understand the Trinity, just able to do math at a 2nd grade level.

[Cronos]

Japheth, being the father of the Greeks, was given the prophecy that his people would share spiritual blessings with the Jews.

And, so Japheth was hence the father of the Romans, Italians, Nordics (Germanics too), Celts, Iranis, Hittites and Indians too -- as all of these are Aryanic peoples.

Who was Ham the father of?

[MarkBsnr]

But BB; exactly none of these verses say that people will have different rewards in Heaven. None of them.

All in Heaven are rewarded by the presence of Almighty God. What possible other rewards can one have? I mean, do the greatly rewarded drink Johnny Walker Blue; the immensely rewarded drink single malt Scotch from a particular island, and the barely scraping through drink Hamm’s? What graduated rewards are indicated?

One is either saved or damned.

[NoGrayZone]

"God is sinless, Jesus was sinless.."

That is redundant. They are one in the same.

Still waiting for an answer on that one.

[Cronos]

I have no problem with language translations, but if latin were the most precise language then God would have seen to it that the writers of the NT used latin

The early writings were in ARamaic, not Greek.

[NoGrayZone]

Sorry. I don’t reduce Jesus to 1/3 of anything.

[MarkBsnr]

Japheth, being the father of the Greeks, was given the prophecy that his people would share spiritual blessings with the Jews.

And, so Japheth was hence the father of the Romans, Italians, Nordics (Germanics too), Celts, Iranis, Hittites and Indians too -- as all of these are Aryanic peoples.

Who was Ham the father of?

I'm still waiting for the Scriptural proof that Japeth was the father of the Greeks.

[Natural Law]

"Sorry. I don’t reduce Jesus to 1/3 of anything."

Do you or can you differentiate between God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit? If not we have no common point of discussion and you have no place in a thread addressing who the Catholics are.

[Cronos]

Then why is he still hanging on the cross in the Catholic church?

That's just a statue, not God. Sheesh.

[daniel1212]

And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. (John 12:45)

What meaneth this?

Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him. (John 12:39-41)

When did Isaiah says this, and see Jesus in His glory, and prophesy of Him?

In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. (Isaiah 6:1-3)

Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. (Isaiah 6:8-10)

The one Isaiah saw was Jesus, the Lord, sitting upon a throne in His glory, which was told in response to the eternal question, “who is this Son of man?” (Jn. 12:34b)

Subtle, but for those who have eyes...

While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them. (John 12:36)

Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. (Isaiah 45:15)

[daniel1212]

Well done.

The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their CROWNS before the throne, saying, Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. (Revelation 4:10-11)

[NoGrayZone]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2421970/posts?page=8798#8798

You’re the one who reduced Him to 1/3.

[Cronos]

What is the Vatican’s position, then, on “pure”-form Buddhism?

I don't know what the Church position is on this pure form, but I can tell you that Theravada Buddhism does not have supersitition or really believe in any gods -- it is a-theistic in the sense that when Buddha was asked about whether gods existed, he kept silent, indicating that he did not think so.

This is in common with Jainism which does not believe in the concept of a creator deity and the only "gods" according to them are purely higher evolved beings but still subject to karma (as opposed to arihants who are not).

so, Theravad buddhism is more properly a philosophy, while Mahayana is more a religion. Though of course, the lines have blurred in the millenia.

You have met Buddhists in China -- China is not the root of Buddhism -- that is in Bihar in India and Theravada in it's pure form is practised among the Sinhalese in Ceylon. The Chinese merged Buddhism with Chinese deities

Can one be a “pure”-form Buddhist and at the same time a member of the Catholic Churdh?
No

The Church should take action against them, but do you expect them to run an Inquisition?

You do realise that the Inquisition was started precisely for the reasons you outline? Do you believe that is a correct form of action?