Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
Amen!
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ" -- 1 Peter 1:6-13"Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
Good stuff. 8~). Our salvation is "the glory that followed."
Hmmmmm
The shocking thing . . . is that some Pentecostal congregations are dry or dead or dying. Form has taken over.
And going through the motions.
Yes, here is the website:
http://www.legion-of-mary.ie/
I’ve never seen it linked on any of these thread, I suspect that is due to the fact that it doesn’t say anything that fits certain agendas.
That was one of the main things I loved about China.
Faith was dear enough and still risky enough
Believers were passionately serious about their RELATIONSHIP with God.
From Wikideedoodah :
To be in the Legion of Mary, one must be a practising Catholic. Active members serve God under the banner of Mary by practising the Spiritual Works of Mercy. The main apostolate of the Legion consists in activities directed towards all men and women, young and old, rich and poor as well as people from the margins of society (homeless, prostitutes, prisoners etc.) and towards non-Catholics. The members of the Legion are primarily engaged in the performance of the Spiritual Works of Mercy rather than works of material aid.
I think we can take that as a yeah.
God claims it took him six days to create the heavens and the earth. Why so long?
I think Roger Vadim thoroughly explored that question in a 1956 French film (Et Dieu… créa la femme). I tried to convince my Pastor father that it was a religious study but Bridget Bardot was no Joan of Ark, at least not dressed like her.
Think of the words we use..We are adopted.. children do not get to select their adoptive father, the father choose the child.
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,
6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.
7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace
8 which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight
9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him
11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory.
13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.
My point is that men do have a "free will" they will always do what they will, and an unsaved man will never seek the God of the Bible.
Why?
It does not seem to be a Christian thing to do. Why focus your attention on anyone other than Jesus?
Have you looked at the website? It does focus on Jesus.
Form is not a bad thing Quix....that generally means a fellowship has graduated to another level of understanding that God wants to take them...the question is to identify that as taking place.
Oftentimes those who are accustomed to the emotional high find it difficult to move beyond this to the deeper things of God. Accustomed to the thrill they think something is wrong if that isn’t present. When actually the fellowship is on a threshold of moving forward.
Many chuches fail or loose membership at this juncture...like a kid use to the fun and excitement of kindergarden, finds in elementary schooling and junior high it’s time to get down to the business at hand. Some kids think they can still behave and act like they’re in kindergarden...doesn’t work..God wants them to move forward. The pace becomes more measured and focused with less time on thrills and the emotional side. They learn to sit still and learn...(”Be still and know that I am God”)
For people who are highly emotional creatures this change is most difficult. If most of the congregation is as so they will leave for another church, yet in it’s infant stages, or they will become disallusioned.
I don’t belong to a the Penatacostal Movement, but I have attended and know those who have been closely affiliated. This is not foreign to most who see there church fellowship becoming mundane to them.
Not what I’m seeing so often.
But I’m not feeling chipper enough to elaborate a lot.
Later.
I did look at the web site and saw this in the "about us" section. I underlined what caught my eye. I'm not surprised RC's don't find anything strange about this, but it sure doesn't look Christian to me. A better definition would be Marian.
And these Legions of Mary are all of the same belief and practice. For you to single out for ridicule the one I referenced is just silly.
Predictable, but silly.
From your link...
FRANK DUFF - Founder of the Legion of Mary - Frank Duff was born in Dublin, Ireland, on June 7, 1889. He entered the Civil Service at the age of 18. At 24 he joined the Society of St. Vincent de Paul where he was led to a deeper commitment to his Catholic faith and at the same time he acquired a great sensitivity to the needs of the poor and underprivileged. Along with a group of Catholic women and Fr. Michael Toher, Dublin Archdiocese, he formed the first praesidium of the Legion of Mary on September 7, 1921. From that date until his death, November 7, 1980, he guided the world-wide extension of the Legion with heroic dedication. He attended the Second Vatican Council as a lay observer. His profound insights into the role of the Blessed Virgin in the plan of Redemption, as also into the role of the lay faithful in the mission of the Church, are reflected in the Legion Handbook which is almost entirely his composition.
One assumes this organization is careful who it hands out charters to. The Legion of Mary blog I linked to also is guided by Frank's "Legion of Mary Handbook."
A quick glance at the dozens of other "Legion of Mary" groups/websites/blogs shows they all are dedicated to the same thing - Mary - and all adhere to the Legion's Handbook.
If you disagree with them, tell them.
Here's more (under "English") prayers from the Legion of Mary...
v. O Mary, conceived without sin.R. Pray for us who have recourse to you. Let us pray. O Lord Jesus Christ, our mediator with the Father, Who has been Pleased to appoint the Most Blessed Virgin, Your mother, to be our mother also, and our mediatrix with You, mercifully grant that whoever comes to You seeking Your favours may rejoice to receive all of them through her. Amen."Who is she that comes forth as the morning rising, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in battle array?
"...through her???"
Pathetic. Read from the Legion's Handbook. It gets worse. Much worse.
Yes, the Mother of God is important. That IS Christian and very much in keeping with the Gospels. The fact that your interpretation of Scripture conflicts with Church teaching isn't the Church's fault.
Wow! Who could have seen THAT coming?
So you'll be leaving Free Republic, stop reading any books other than the Bible, and focus entirely on Jesus, which may sort of impact the whole personal hygiene thing, but hey, our focus has to be where our focus has to be, right?
Okay, your move. But before you make it, tell me, don't you get tired of this game?
What you posted is a blog by someone who claims to be a member of the Legion of Mary. That establishes NOTHING.
The Legion of Mary is sanctioned by the Vatican. A quick check of other Legions of Mary shows the Legion supposedly has 10 million practicing Roman Catholic members world-wide.
Your point? Of course the Church is growing.
And these Legions of Mary are all of the same belief and practice. For you to single out for ridicule the one I referenced is just silly.
NO, I've given you a link to the actual Legion of Mary website, find your information there. Individual members DO NOT speak for the Legion.
As I mentioned earlier, would I be correct in saying that the FACT that ordained OPC ministers have condoned segregation and denied the Holocaust mean that the OPC and its members are all in agreement on this?
The Legion of Mary blog I linked to also is guided by Frank's "Legion of Mary Handbook."
Yes, and when Calvin was burning people at the stake he was "guided" by the Bible.
And yes, I do agree with the prayers. The fact that many have been so warped by five hundred years of apostasy and heresy that they cannot understand the truth, the fact that some have systematically ignored the actual Word of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the fact that some are so consumed with fear that they lash out in hatred, IS NOT the Church's fault.
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