Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
God the Holy Spirit does communicate with believers. We know He acts upon the hearing of the Word within our human spirit and continues to sanctify the soul in that ministry, note the soul and mind being discernible from the human spirit.
Also in cases of Divine Judgment, there are many documented cases in Scripture where prior to final stages of a degenerate rebellious behavior, God manifests grace. Sometimes that grace is by Divine Discipline to get our attention to return to Him. Sometimes a person might be so hardened in their heart to refuse to see those indicators, He uses others to communicate to the rebellious person or nation. In other cases God the Holy Spirit might communicate per our spiritual gifts an event which would interfere with a person being in the right place, at the right time by His Plan.
Just this afternoon, my spouse had taken a friend to the hospital and had returned to give her a ride home from the day procedure. She had been waiting near the doorways and kept moving the car periodically to make sure she wasn’t in the way or impeding traffic. At one point, she thought she had perceived nearly being hit by a car, but looked around afterwards and couldn’t see anything, but decided to leave for a while so as not to be too close to the area. Her friend called indicating she would be there a little longer but would make it home on her own. When my wife returned home, she discovered only moments earlier, somebody had driven a car through the area she had been and had crashed into the waiting room through the hospital doors. Moments later, her friend called indicating the doctors advised against her driving and she had to have my wife pick her up. She’s fairly certain what she had perceived had been a vision and not a car missing her, but a perception of a very real threat.
When I read Quix’s report, I see nothing which fails to glorify God, nor to counterfeit what He provides, but merely a report of a warning that God might judge and the time might be short if the rebellious person did not cease his past behavior.
The solution is to simply remain in fellowship with God in all things, through faith in Christ, keeping our accounts short and remaining in prayer continuously. By remaining in faith through Him, He then places us in the right place, at the right time to perform His Plan by His Sovereignty.
it’s meant to be hilarious
I cannot recall meeting or knowing
an authentic Christian, in my understanding . . . of any flavor or brand
who has not had
the experience
of reading the Bible in the midst of a burden, desperate need, travail . . .
and had a verse ‘leap off the page’ with a great . . . intensity within their
spirit, heart, being . . . an intensity, a burning within their being affirming that THAT VERSE AT THAT TIME was
GOD SPEAKIND SPECIFICALLY TO THEM ABOUT THAT NEED IN A SPECIFIC WAY.
Personally, I’d be inclined to think that if a Christian had been a Christian longer than a year or 3 without such an experience, I’d question either
their Christianity or
their prayer life or
their Bible reading time or
their degree of paying attention to God—
something would be amiss.
Absolutely.
And assumptions about such
vis a vis
their application in another believer’s life
can be quite hazardous.
. . . an interesting judgment.
I find no grounds for it.
Then read the post to which it is a reply.
Mary cannot save anyone. You might as well go right to the top. If your concern is “the hour of our death”, He can help in that department as well
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INDEED TO THE MAX.
Not in the Don Corleone religion
"Every time I put the line down I would say a Hail Mary, and every time I said a Hail Mary, I would catch a fish." Fredo Corleone
Ahhhhh . . . I wonder how you apportion out responsibility.
. . . in the life of . . . as a result of . . . life experiences and contingencies . . .
a horribly abused child now adult
a genetically managled brain capacity now an adult
a gang raped and shattered sensitive 23 year old woman
a tender hearted man who’s mother and father constantly berated him as worthless and incompetent through he was quite brilliant and gifted, just terminally insecure and shattered by the abuse . . . now an adult
. . .
. . .
Only God knows the shoes another has walked in . . . internally and externally. Only God can apportion degrees of responsibility accurately.
Harsh assignments of responsibility by onlookers tend to be overblown in their confidence of accuracy.
Onlookers always know only a fraction of the realities involved.
Am I to understand, via this thread, that if I choose to attend certain churches and take communion there...say in my travels the closest or only church....that I would not be allowed to do so without checking in with someone, and they giving me permission to do so? and or going thru some sort of ritual first? Even though they are clearly offering communion in their service?
But is Godfather III now sola scriptura?
I’ll repeat what I said in the first place:
We are each responsible for who we are and what we do.
On the contrary, Christ presents Himself as the Chief Cornerstone, and it was the Catholic claim that he used the same word for large rock as small rock, therefore no distinction was made. It is untenable to have it both ways. Either Christ is the Rock and Peter is the little chip or they are supposedly equal in a Catholic sense, thereby denying the headship of Christ over the body of Christ.
If one remains humble and in fellowship through faith alone in Christ alone, in studying the Word, the meaning may be taught by God the Holy Spirit to our human spirit.
Even in a situation where Peter was told he was going to be given unto him the keys to the kingdom of heaven, so that whatever might be bound on Earth would be bound in heaven and whatever he would loose on earth, would be loosed in heaven, still Peter replied later in the conversation in a fashion where he was rebuked by our Lord and spoken to as Satan, by name.
Considering the 5 I wills of the Adversary, one could also make the argument that these things might have been offered to Peter who had fallen out of fellowship and the things he had recognized were things told him by the Father, while Peter instead allowed Satan to control Peter, for instead of seeking things of God, he sought those of men. Rather than denying himself, he sought to save his life.
Christ first, then the authority to whom He has given it.
I’ver probably belabored it overmuch already . . . however I will note . . .
The chairman was appriased in more specific terms than I related that he needed to make some serious adjustments in his approach to the situation. I had been respectful but candid. And in that phone call, I was even more articulate and candid. His pride bowed up all the more.
The contrast between his pride and the incredible loving, sacrificially caring and giving nature of the team to one another EVEN WITH ALL THE HORRID TROUBLESOME EMOTIONALLY INTENSE STUFF was just and incredibly stark contrast. And here the Chairman was essentially threatening and moving toward being MORE destructive. It was absolutely clear in my spirit that God was not having any of that track at all.
The misison team had been extremely long suffering and patient to the max and been essentially brutalized for their Christ-likeness.
Anyway, no two incidents even in the same decade are going to be absolutely equal.
I think the only significant similarity that might be drawn from the Ananias and spouse incident in comparison with the one I had a small part in—is that God—in times and situations of His choosing—decides that things are starkly critical and important enough to take very emphatic action.
I don’t expect to see Ananias and spouse in Heaven. I won’t be surprised at all to see the mission Chairman there. It appeared to me and to the whole mission team that God wanted to make a very emphatic statement to the team in their behalf but also to the mission board and the denomination to stop being cruel and stupid with folks on the front lines.
They did better for about 10 years or so. Now things seem to have returned to a similar destructive and stupid mentality.
In any case, there are going to be a LOT of folks taken out of this life in the not too distant future around the world in somewhat similar fasion. The fear of God will be a much more tangible and common thing around authentic truly Spirit filled Christian groups. . . . whether after warnings as in my case . . . or more instant situations as in the case with Peter and Ananias and Sapphira . . . as well as others similar but not identical to either.
You are exceedingly wrong.
And I rebuke in the strongest terms any such idea.
I’ll also strongly note that ascribing to Holy Spirit’s work a label of the devil’s work is extremely spiritually hazardous in my understanding of Scripture and God’s priorities.
And to restate accurately . . . Quix did not instruct Holy Spirit nor any other spirit in that situation. Holy Spirit was in charge start to finish and every step along the way. It was all I could do to keep tuned in and keep up.
I don’t expect some folks to believe the facts of the case.
The fact that they weren’t any where near . . . and that it was 20 years or more ago doesn’t seem to hinder their arrogant assumptions in knowing all the essential particulars in their own eyes.
soooooooooooo impressive, not.
I don't fear God.
My faith in God is absolute, leaving no doubt or fear of any kind.
I raised that case as an illustration . . . I don’t remember of what, at the moment. I should have realized that anything out of ordinary of folks experience beyond prayers to Mary . . . would have been pounced on with claws, knives and teeth blaring.
Silly me.
I should be more careful about the pearls of experience God has led and shoved me through.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.The beauty is that while we are all subjectively still sick...
Jesus: No one is good—except God alone....objectively the Physician has taken the end result of the disease upon Himself and His perfect health is credited to us!
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
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