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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: Judith Anne
...this comment from Quix's post is the single most unbalanced, evil thing I have ever read on this forum...

I cannot recall any worse.

Unbalanced and evil, that really captures it.

...the Holy Spirit was, in my opinion, NOT involved. Possibly Satan.

You have stated it.

501 posted on 01/07/2010 2:31:44 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: the_conscience
"Why is it derogatory, hurtful, and objectionable?"

How can you profess to be an expert on theology, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and reformist history and have to ask such a question?

502 posted on 01/07/2010 2:31:59 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Given his countless shortfallings on item two, perhaps we ought to question items one and three.


503 posted on 01/07/2010 2:33:44 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Natural Law

Where did I profess that?

Is what is in the past always true in the present?


504 posted on 01/07/2010 2:36:10 PM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
It is my opinion as a devout Catholic that this comment from Quix's post is the single most unbalanced, evil thing I have ever read on this forum, and the Holy Spirit was, in my opinion, NOT involved. Possibly Satan. I pray Christ has mercy on anyone who purports to speak for the Holy Spirit in fatal judgment of another human.

Whether or not He was, I do not know, however, one notable example that it is possible occurs in Acts 5:1-12. One does not tempt the holy Spirit nor lie to Him

505 posted on 01/07/2010 2:40:35 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix

Why ping a full list of people to your derogatory statement against one?

That’s not cool.


506 posted on 01/07/2010 2:44:30 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Natural Law

It should be changed to Roman Catholics.


507 posted on 01/07/2010 2:53:16 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: 1000 silverlings; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Was going to reply privately . . . however, there’s enough silliness in enough responses . . . I’ll go ahead and comment publically.

Peter and I merely reported out what Holy Spirit had informed us of. Holy Spirit did whatever Holy Spirit chose to do.

It’s amazing the cheek of assumptions hereon from folks who have never been close to such phenomena and who were thousands of miles from the situation and have not clue one about the particulars.

I will also note that the of the other folks in the situation—the 11 team members in Taiwan as well as myself and the fellow who replaced him and his wife . . . were all utterly convinced about what God had chosen to do and were in great AWE OF GOD.

In all likelihood, had God not chosen that option, the mission team would have been decimated. One very bright and called fellow was even in danger of losing out on his relationship with God. 3 of the 5 couples were in danger of leaving the mission field entirely.

One marriage was potentially at serious risk.

One missionary father/husband was suicidal.

On top of that, there were 20 or more kids at risk.

The team really loved each other and the Lord tremendously. There were some problems that they couldn’t solve on their own. The arrogance on the part of the supervising committee and chairman persistently had made things worse for YEARS—TIME AFTER TIME.

I just know that Holy Spirit rose up within me in the face of the fellow’s arrogant bluster and warned him as I did. He chose to ignore the warning in the weeks following.

I expect to meet the fellow in Heaven.

BTW, It COULD have been a Methodist Or Presbyterian group. I don’t always keep such petty details straight.


508 posted on 01/07/2010 2:54:19 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: the_conscience
"Is what is in the past always true in the present?"

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

509 posted on 01/07/2010 2:55:43 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Petronski

What’s ironic is you were the one accused of speaking for God in 494.


510 posted on 01/07/2010 2:56:13 PM PST by Titanites
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To: Natural Law

So you’re conflating God with finite events?


511 posted on 01/07/2010 2:58:15 PM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: Dr. North

Perhaps they will agree with him and exhort me accordingly.

Perhaps they will enjoy the irony.

Perhaps they will enjoy the humor.

Perhaps they’d like to keep up on the continuing traditional dance.


512 posted on 01/07/2010 2:59:18 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
I just know that Holy Spirit rose up within me in the face of the fellow’s arrogant bluster and warned him as I did.

He did not.

Matthew 12:31-2

513 posted on 01/07/2010 2:59:21 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: the_conscience
"So you’re conflating God with finite events?"

No, I was reciting the Rosary.

514 posted on 01/07/2010 3:00:30 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Petronski; Quix
"I just know that Holy Spirit rose up within me in the face of the fellow’s arrogant bluster and warned him as I did."

That, my friend, is the real embodiment of "taking the Lords name in vain".

515 posted on 01/07/2010 3:03:00 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg

It was probably Presbyterian


516 posted on 01/07/2010 3:04:20 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

LOL.

Evidently quite a number of folks are in for some . . . awakening . . . educational experiences . . . if any . . .


517 posted on 01/07/2010 3:06:30 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. North

However, as is routinely my habit,

I’ll still take your exhortation to prayer and see if The Lord agrees.


518 posted on 01/07/2010 3:08:21 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Titanites

What’s that word that starts with ‘h’ and rhymes with hypocrisy?


519 posted on 01/07/2010 3:09:31 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Quix
Numbers 11 1And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.

2And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the LORD, the fire was quenched.

3And he called the name of the place Taberah: because the fire of the LORD burnt among them.

4And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat?

5We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick:

6But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes.

7And the manna was as coriander seed, and the colour thereof as the colour of bdellium.

8And the people went about, and gathered it, and ground it in mills, or beat it in a mortar, and baked it in pans, and made cakes of it: and the taste of it was as the taste of fresh oil.

9And when the dew fell upon the camp in the night, the manna fell upon it.

10Then Moses heard the people weep throughout their families, every man in the door of his tent: and the anger of the LORD was kindled greatly; Moses also was displeased.

11And Moses said unto the LORD, Wherefore hast thou afflicted thy servant? and wherefore have I not found favour in thy sight, that thou layest the burden of all this people upon me?

12Have I conceived all this people? have I begotten them, that thou shouldest say unto me, Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land which thou swarest unto their fathers?

13Whence should I have flesh to give unto all this people? for they weep unto me, saying, Give us flesh, that we may eat.

14I am not able to bear all this people alone, because it is too heavy for me.

15And if thou deal thus with me, kill me, I pray thee, out of hand, if I have found favour in thy sight; and let me not see my wretchedness.

16And the LORD said unto Moses, Gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom thou knowest to be the elders of the people, and officers over them; and bring them unto the tabernacle of the congregation, that they may stand there with thee.

17And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.

18And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the LORD, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt: therefore the LORD will give you flesh, and ye shall eat.

19Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days;

20But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome unto you: because that ye have despised the LORD which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt?

21And Moses said, The people, among whom I am, are six hundred thousand footmen; and thou hast said, I will give them flesh, that they may eat a whole month.

22Shall the flocks and the herds be slain for them, to suffice them? or shall all the fish of the sea be gathered together for them, to suffice them?

23And the LORD said unto Moses, Is the LORD'S hand waxed short? thou shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass unto thee or not.

24And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle.

25And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.

26But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.

27And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp.

28And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them.

29And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

30And Moses gat him into the camp, he and the elders of Israel.

31And there went forth a wind from the LORD, and brought quails from the sea, and let them fall by the camp, as it were a day's journey on this side, and as it were a day's journey on the other side, round about the camp, and as it were two cubits high upon the face of the earth.

32And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp.

33And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague.

34And he called the name of that place Kibrothhattaavah: because there they buried the people that lusted.

520 posted on 01/07/2010 3:17:38 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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