Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
Trent affirmed, it was not silent. And not even your source claims that the Church did not use the Deuterocanonicals (they are not Apocrypha - books such as the Gospel of Peter and the Shepherd are Apocrypha) as justification for doctrine.
Naw they needed maccabees ..it is the only historical document that hints at prayers for the dead..
2 Timothy 1: 15 10 You know that everyone in Asia deserted me, including Phygelus and Hermogenes. 16 11 May the Lord grant mercy to the family of Onesiphorus because he often gave me new heart and was not ashamed of my chains. 17 But when he came to Rome, he promptly searched for me and found me. 18 May the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord 12 on that day. And you know very well the services he rendered in Ephesus.
I guess that Paul doesn't count in this instance.
The apostles were not the church...The church was not the apostles... The church is those that were added daily such as would be saved...The body...The body is the church...
The Church is the household of God.
The apostles were pillars...They supported the truth as colums and pillars do support structures...
God is the foundation of ALL truth...God is THE pillar and ground of the truth...
Fascinating post. Rambling and not even consistent in meaning between one paragraph and the next. If I believe you, then I must call Paul a liar directly, then.
And then there's the crazy assertation that YOUR religion is the church...
I don't have a religion. I follow Christ. I do not have a Church of Iscool (population one) that consists of a LaZBoy armchair in front of a television set.
Lol, lol. So all that Moses stuff is what?
Oh I don't know; what God told him to write down, I guess.
Well, we can start with Acts 1: the ordination of Matthias.
Acts 6:6 5 The proposal was acceptable to the whole community, so they chose Stephen, a man filled with faith and the holy Spirit, also Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicholas of Antioch, a convert to Judaism. 6 They presented these men to the apostles who prayed and laid hands on them. 4 7 The word of God continued to spread, and the number of the disciples in Jerusalem increased greatly;
Acts 13: 1 1 Now there were in the church at Antioch prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Symeon who was called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen who was a close friend of Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." 3 Then, completing their fasting and prayer, they laid hands on them and sent them off. 4 2 So they, sent forth by the holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia and from there sailed to Cyprus. 5 When they arrived in Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the Jewish synagogues. They had John 3 also as their assistant.
Acts 16: 21 After they had proclaimed the good news to that city and made a considerable number of disciples, they returned to Lystra and to Iconium and to Antioch. 22 They strengthened the spirits of the disciples and exhorted them to persevere in the faith, saying, "It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God." 23 They appointed presbyters 5 for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, commended them to the Lord in whom they had put their faith.
And so on. We are all set.
Purgatory diminishes nothing about the Cross. It is the process of making a human being (by definition in a state of sin) able to enter Heaven (by definition a place where no sin can exist). All Scriptural and all demonstrable.
All this time, you had us convinced that you were Baptist and here you are a clandestine Catholic. For shame, sir. For shame. :)
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I count it all for good. They can't substantiate their beliefs with Scripture so they're running lame right out of the gate.
I find it impossible to slander the good Dr. E.
But IOW's when a poster does not toe your line, any little thing you can post to discredit them is fair game.
The good Dr. E has posted many things that she has labelled as Catholic from questionable websites owned or used by even more questionable people. Posting photos taken at odd angles posted at even odder mystic sites and claiming that they support central Catholic doctrines is not the way to establish or maintain any credibility whatsoever.
Henry Tudor was given it before his repudiation of the Faith and his physical takeover of the Church in England and all of its properties. Before the monasteries were emptied and the monks killed. Before the persecution of Catholics by the king and Cranmer. Before he killed St. Thomas More.
Well, with the opposite of Global Warming happening, perhaps they are just doing you a kindness. Just as they were predestined to do.
Slander is not allowed on the Religion Forum. If you think I have slandered anyone, just press the “abuse” button at the bottom of the slanderous post, and the Religion Moderator will check it out.
And may God bless you, and all your friends and loved ones, in Christ’s name.
I’m sure if you read your Bible, you would know the difference.
Whatever excuse you come up with to praise, pray to and worship statues or portraits, it is wrong.
I have supplied much scripture stating so previously. If you wish to find it, go seek.
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Ah, but you do repeatedly, Mark. IMO that is because some Roman Catholics have a really difficult, if not impossible time discerning the difference between criticizing a faith or belief as opposed to personally criticizing an individual FReeper.
It took me awhile, but I learned how to post within the rules of FR. There's no excuse why Roman Catholics can't learn to do likewise.
The good Dr. E has posted many things that she has labelled as Catholic from questionable websites owned or used by even more questionable people. Posting photos taken at odd angles
The "odd angle" photo was first posted by alamo-girl. Even with the "odd angle" the photo is pretty explicit and comports with RC faith and practice as taught by Roman Catholics like John Paul II.
Look, I have asked if the Lord God Almighty designated any location for the graven images, or any images, when the prohibition was made.
I’m sorry I missed the answer...
Meanwhile, wagglebee posted some photos of an absolutely beautiful church full of paintings and statues, and no one had any comment about it.
What’s your opinion?
I have no opinion on your conversation between you and the Lord.
Beautiful pictures are just that...beautiful pictures. Many people have beautiful pictures of sunrises and sunsets. Baby animals, baby humans.
Doesn’t mean we worship them.
Possibly reading for comprehension would help clarify that my previous comment.
I have asked IF the Lord God Almighty designated any specific location when He prohibited graven images when the prohibition was made.
Is that better?
Galatians 1: 6 5 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly forsaking the one who called you by (the) grace (of Christ) for a different gospel 7 (not that there is another). But there are some who are disturbing you and wish to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach (to you) a gospel other than the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed! 7 9 As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone preaches to you a gospel other than the one that you received, let that one be accursed!
I expect that Calvin will be experiencing Global Warming first hand. On the sixth circle, I believe.
I'll leave you with 2 Corinthians 11: 13 10 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, who masquerade as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. 15 So it is not strange that his ministers also masquerade as ministers of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Calvin does a lot of masquerading, as do his slaves.
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