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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: LowOiL

Source: http://www.aquinasandmore.com/images/items/61790lg.jpg

I have no idea if it was photoshopped... but it seems to carry Catholic items for sale.

4,921 posted on 01/19/2010 2:31:10 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg
When a poster does not have a record of sourcing, rather the opposite, then anything they post may become suspect.

I thought it commonplace to ping the person you were slandering?

But IOW's when a poster does not toe your line, any little thing you can post to discredit them is fair game.

That is cool... just wanted to clear the air on where I stood and where you stood and not BS about.

4,922 posted on 01/19/2010 2:34:20 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: stfassisi

It was annalex who dragged the discussion over to here after using an old Douay-Rheims (similar to KJV), apparently so I can get jumped on by you folks.

I have no appetite for a cat fight. God bless.


4,923 posted on 01/19/2010 2:35:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LowOiL
I discerned what she meant by READING WHAT SHE SAID.

Just want to throw photoshop out there in the mix huh?

She threw photoshop out there before I mentioned it. Wanna just misrepresent what actually happened, huh?

Perhaps someone should not state a photo is NOT photoshopped when they are in no position to know.

4,924 posted on 01/19/2010 2:35:59 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: LowOiL

https://www.trinitystores.com/.php/catalog.php4?image=240

4,925 posted on 01/19/2010 2:36:49 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: LowOiL
I thought it commonplace to ping the person you were slandering?

You slander people so often as to have a policy about it?

At least you pinged Judith Anne when you slandered her...that's consistency.

4,926 posted on 01/19/2010 2:38:21 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: LowOiL

http://gloria-thomas.com/images/portfolio/zoom_in/great_cross_mary.jpg

4,927 posted on 01/19/2010 2:38:34 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: annalex

You didn’t produce material written by any of the biblical writers. It is rather trollish of you to shake a religiously opinionated fist in a political thread then when challenged not answer there but drag it over to your buddies’ house in the name of “propriety.”

I have no wish for such cat fights. God bless your whiskers. Bye.


4,928 posted on 01/19/2010 2:41:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LowOiL

You have great taste in art!


4,929 posted on 01/19/2010 2:43:25 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski; Judith Anne
At least you pinged Judith Anne when you slandered her...that's consistency.

You forgot to ping Judith Anne when talking about her.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/9205050_3877419852.jpg?v=0

4,930 posted on 01/19/2010 2:43:54 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: LowOiL

Go back and read the post. I slandered NO ONE. I stated a policy that most of us here adhere to; if you don’t like that, have a lovely day, and God bless you.


4,931 posted on 01/19/2010 2:44:55 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: LowOiL

I did not forget to ping her.

She’s already here.

Please post more of that beautiful Christian art!


4,932 posted on 01/19/2010 2:46:39 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Yes, I’ve seen too much of this thread today, LOL!

Please ping me if I slander anyone. I’ll be sure to apologize. ;-D

Bye for a while, this thing is getting insane.


4,933 posted on 01/19/2010 2:49:55 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: LowOiL
Here's a classic:


4,934 posted on 01/19/2010 2:51:00 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg

“Sorry, but you admitted in an earlier post that he was a Catholic.”

Sorry, but you are wrong. I said he had been raised going to Mass 2-3 times/year. His parents would sometimes pray TO statues, if they needed something. He converted in his late teens.

For the record, that would be over 35 years ago. He attended a Southern Baptist Seminary, and agrees in theory with predestination, although I don’t think he pays much attention to it. His sermons, as I indicated, are to come to Christ, know him and live in him.


4,935 posted on 01/19/2010 2:52:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers

So you DENY the charges brought against you by the People’s Tribunal?!? ANSWER YES OR NO, PAPIST SYMPATHIZER!


4,936 posted on 01/19/2010 2:53:54 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: LowOiL
This one is simply a gorgeous work of art:


4,937 posted on 01/19/2010 2:56:25 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Tell me the truth - did you ever expect to see the day you would apply the words “PAPIST SYMPATHIZER” to me, even in jest?

;>)

I always thought I’d be drowned by the People’s Tribunal for rebaptizing, not burned for being a secret agent of Rome!


4,938 posted on 01/19/2010 3:08:36 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers

;OD


4,939 posted on 01/19/2010 3:10:12 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wagglebee; kosta50; sitetest; Kolokotronis; markomalley; Mad Dawg; narses
As an exercise I pledge that I will answer these questions without aid of any kind. I didn't even hit "view replies". My answers will be based solely on my memory of past conversations with my Orthodox friends. I invite correction as needed. :)

Do you actually know why the Orthodox don't hold the Immaculate Conception as dogma?

I think the Orthodox would say the IC is not dogma because it was never ratified by a valid Ecumenical Council.

Do you actually think that the Orthodox agree with Calvinists about the Immaculate Conception?

I think the Orthodox would agree with Calvinists that Mary was conceived of and born in the normal way. I think at least some Orthodox would say that the idea of IC would tend to lessen the humanity of Mary, and thus lessen our connection to her.

Do you think that the Orthodox believe that the Blessed Mother was stained by Original Sin?

I am less sure of this one, but as a general principle, I don't think the Orthodox believe in the idea of "original sin", at least in the way most Western Christians think of it. However, I think they would say that at birth Mary was no less subject to sin than anyone else. But before she was old enough to actually sin, she was given special grace (somewhere around three years old) and that grace resulted in her being able to never commit actual sin.

How'd I do? :)

4,940 posted on 01/19/2010 3:30:22 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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