Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
I’m old and tired and I just sat down and my lexicon is over at the other side of the house.
Can you, would you, give me the three letters of the stem? I know I’m going to have to get up and move but I’m trying to put it off.
But thanks for “getting” the argument.
One of us is, surely.
My initial claim was and still is that people were first called Christians in Antioch, Syria
No, you said that the first Christians were in Antioch. I said that the first Christians were in Jerusalem in the upper room at Pentecost.
If anyone's been following these posts, they know what's accurate...
Hopefully.
More idiocy. Thank you for sharing.
It's one thing to build things for God's temple at His instruction and it's quite another to build things which God has condemned and told us not to build...
You have explicitly told us that all graven images are forbidden. Are you reneging on that claim?
God created all the birds...You going to create some birds too???
The dodos have already been created.
I think one of the greatest deprivations in the nurture of most US kiddies is that they don't start foreign languages until late. When I unite in myself the office of Pope and Emperor of the Universe, as I plan to do any day now, kids are going to have to learn more than one language starting in kindergarten.
No. Petronski has posted a link to the Catechism. If you have lost it, I can post it again to you. No secrets, no Gnosticism. No YOPIOS either, so the Church of Iscool (population one) would not be considered Christian.
Deut5:7-9
“You shall have no other gods before me”
“You shall not make for yourself an idol”
-in the form of anything
-in heaven above
-or on the earth beneath
-or in the waters below.
“You shall not bow down to them
-or worship them;
for I,the LORD
your God,
am a jealous God...
Sometimes it’s been helpful for me to set up a scripture, for better understanding of what it’s saying and to research/study it more carefully.
Here is the one you gave, in part, which I found pretty much clarifies what God says about idols. He is quite specific about what..”anything”. He also is clear about where, entire planet.”anywhere”.
Therefore I can agree and do...along with other passages.
Don't you ever get tired of being so bone-achingly gobsmackingly wrong?
Excellent. Therefore it should be relatively easy to post a condensed description, right?
It’s a MAN, baybee...
... it being all perspicuous and all ....
In fact the perspicuity makes one wonder why there are people getting degrees and studying Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, and all that. A Bible College sounds like "selling water by the river."
Is there any Christ in your Christianity?
Ceiling cat disapproves of YOPIOS.
A lot of Catholics leave because they can't be bothered with the responsibility of being Christian.
Hummm to add to that post..
it appears if we do make idols etc. He is jealous.
This would then tie in with what Mark said a few posts back, that we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart...mind...and soul...first and formost.
It clearly speaks of situations that arise between the living. But it does not exclude the dead, and if they have eternal life as Christ promised them, then they are with us by default. By what logic shouldn't their eternal life be free from prayer? They are with God, are they not?
What does having eternal life have to do with being with us? That doesn't follow. Are the departed omnipresent? Physical death is meant to be a separation. I agree with you that the departed saved are WITH God. But that MEANS they are NOT with us, right? Their concerns now are Heavenly concerns, not earthly concerns. Imagine it. If you were actually in the presence of God would you be worrying about what is going on down here? I won't be, but I'm just mean. :) Besides, how could a Saint like Mary or Peter possibly handle all the traffic? Presumably, they would be passing along tens of millions of specific prayers per week, or day. How could they do it? :)
In any event, I think your original reference was specifically to James 5:16, i.e. "righteous man". I can't imagine the intent of that term was to include bodiless souls.
By what logic shouldn't their eternal life be free from prayer?
That's an interesting question. I can imagine us praising God and giving glory to Him, worshiping Him and all. But if I was already in His presence, I'm not sure what I would ask for. At that point what could I be lacking? I think I'd be pleased enough just to be there. :)
FK: Why is a canonized saint certain to be in Heaven?
The Church examines his life and finds evidence of heroic virtue. That is what gets one to heaven.
Heroic virtue gets one into Heaven, but you don't believe that salvation is earned?
You do not judge others for things you yourself are liable; you can judge others positively all you want.
Well, you can say that so and so did these great things, but how can you judge his heart, his faith? Lots of reprobate do great things.
Note that canonization does nothing to the saint, who is in heaven in a state of supernatural happiness already. It serves the living by giving them a friend they otherwise would not know about.
OK, thanks. I wondered how that worked. But if I was supernaturally happy being in the presence of God, I wouldn't be for long if I started looking down here to see what was going on. :) I would definitely have tears.
What do I have to do to get you to stop pinging me to your posts?
Unless you’re replying to one of my posts, just don’t do it.
It clearly speaks of situations that arise between the living. But it does not exclude the dead, and if they have eternal life as Christ promised them, then they are with us by default. By what logic shouldn't their eternal life be free from prayer? They are with God, are they not?
What does having eternal life have to do with being with us? That doesn't follow. Are the departed omnipresent? Physical death is meant to be a separation. I agree with you that the departed saved are WITH God. But that MEANS they are NOT with us, right? Their concerns now are Heavenly concerns, not earthly concerns. Imagine it. If you were actually in the presence of God would you be worrying about what is going on down here? I won't be, but I'm just mean. :) Besides, how could a Saint like Mary or Peter possibly handle all the traffic? Presumably, they would be passing along tens of millions of specific prayers per week, or day. How could they do it? :)
In any event, I think your original reference was specifically to James 5:16, i.e. "righteous man". I can't imagine the intent of that term was to include bodiless souls.
By what logic shouldn't their eternal life be free from prayer?
That's an interesting question. I can imagine us praising God and giving glory to Him, worshiping Him and all. But if I was already in His presence, I'm not sure what I would ask for. At that point what could I be lacking? I think I'd be pleased enough just to be there. :)
FK: Why is a canonized saint certain to be in Heaven?
The Church examines his life and finds evidence of heroic virtue. That is what gets one to heaven.
Heroic virtue gets one into Heaven, but you don't believe that salvation is earned?
You do not judge others for things you yourself are liable; you can judge others positively all you want.
Well, you can say that so and so did these great things, but how can you judge his heart, his faith? Lots of reprobate do great things.
Note that canonization does nothing to the saint, who is in heaven in a state of supernatural happiness already. It serves the living by giving them a friend they otherwise would not know about.
OK, thanks. I wondered how that worked. But if I was supernaturally happy being in the presence of God, I wouldn't be for long if I started looking down here to see what was going on. :) I would definitely have tears.
Sorry for the double post
I'm sorry, I had no idea. I haven't caught up to your request yet. I'm well over a thousand posts behind so I just didn't know. Sorry again.
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